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197824.29 in reply to 197824.26
Date: 10/11/2011 10:36:17 AM
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And because this discussion is all about long term planning with training lets see its perspective with one dimensional training regime. The idea is to reach to a certain value of skills for a player the fastest you can, and there are different opinions whether the EE will lead you there. Basically, I share the idea of B.B.King (197824.4). Now, let's see how the cross-training adds to that.

IMO, the cross-training can be a real headache with it's potent randomness. It's really a question how much randomness you are willing to afford. If you are a perfectionist, I'd say you will always try to stay close to the 90%. One-dimensional training for the purpose of gaining huge EE could produce cross-training share of ____ %. For a player:

JS 14 JR 7
OD 7 HN 14
DV 14 PA 7
IS 1 ID 1
RB 1 SB 1

how much % does fall to the random training if you continue with the 1-on-1? We certainly know it is more that 10%. Could it be 20% with these set of skills? If we say it is, what is the training speed of 1on1 in the next week?

base speed x negative elastic effect x 0.8?

Obviously you will be training 1on1 slower, but the bigger problem for me is that ___ % of cross-training. For a manager that cares very much of total skill points vs potential vs salary this is probably not the most desired outcome.

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197824.30 in reply to 197824.1
Date: 10/11/2011 11:47:27 AM
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Is there any proof of an elastic effect then training a big man on the lagging small man skills (or vice versa)?




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197824.31 in reply to 197824.30
Date: 10/11/2011 4:46:42 PM
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Is there any proof of an elastic effect then training a big man on the lagging small man skills (or vice versa)?


Sorry, I didn't understand fully what you mean...can you explain a bit better? You mean, if there is negative elastic effect on big men if they have bad guard skills? As far as I know, there shouldn't be. But I have never trained big men, so maybe someone else should have a better answer.

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197824.32 in reply to 197824.29
Date: 10/11/2011 4:49:03 PM
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how much % does fall to the random training if you continue with the 1-on-1? We certainly know it is more that 10%. Could it be 20% with these set of skills? If we say it is, what is the training speed of 1on1 in the next week?

base speed x negative elastic effect x 0.8?

Obviously you will be training 1on1 slower, but the bigger problem for me is that ___ % of cross-training. For a manager that cares very much of total skill points vs potential vs salary this is probably not the most desired outcome.


I see your point, it's a very interesting one. If you train the player you "created" in either JR, PA or OD, then very little goes to cross training (more than 90%) and a lot goes into trained skills. So there is probably a threshold where you have to stop training 1 on 1 because it creates so much negative effect that even faster OD or JR training can't recover it.

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197824.34 in reply to 197824.31
Date: 10/11/2011 10:19:14 PM
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Is there any proof of an elastic effect then training a big man on the lagging small man skills (or vice versa)?


Sorry, I didn't understand fully what you mean...can you explain a bit better? You mean, if there is negative elastic effect on big men if they have bad guard skills? As far as I know, there shouldn't be. But I have never trained big men, so maybe someone else should have a better answer.



at least starting with this season there should be one, and why shouldn't they exist before it mustn't been a big one.