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"Point,set and match"?It still doesn't mean that scrimmages should have an effect for fan survey in buzzerbeater. In real life, there isn't minute management for gameshape or training. So in a friendly game in real life, you can play to win and since you are playing to win the fans might care. Most users who know what their doing in BB don't take scrimmages seriously because it is just for Game shape/ training.... Thus you were still wrong, Pini...

And once again, the same bunch of users has no claim to support their original claim ("scrimmages should not affect fan base"), and as always goes to the all-mighty, always true, and full of strengthening claims for "This is not a real BB game".

Of course, and as always, there is not a single claim that connect that nonsense to the suggestion raised - why it should not affect the fan base.
Surprised I'm not.

I'm surprised Pini, I thought you were smart enough to connect the dots. Alright I'm a nice guy, I'll explain. Scrimmages should not affect the fan survey in buzzerbeater because in Buzzerbeater most of them are played without the intention to win. They are just for minute management. Usually I do not play my regular players in scrimmages. Most managers who understand gameshape and training do not play their best players in scrimmages. The winner in a scrimmage does not matter, thus the fans should not care.

It would be rather fun to see how many teams that actually do use their good players in scrimmage games. I guess we would be way down at 0.0... something percent.

Not relevant. When a rule changes teams need to adjust.
Like when adding the 3Pt line, the 24 seconds, etc.

The scrimmage is for maintaining GS and getting an extra training opportunity. I cant see why ever this would need to have influence on my fans.

Because, and as I've prove with the Barca-LA game, it does.
You want to have a shorter (quatliy) roster? You will need to pay for that...

I guess the LAL game that is mentioned so much in this thread is an extreme case that is hard to find a comparison to. There is a pretty fierce debate about what continent has the best basket and this game probably was taken as a pointer by the spanish fans. If they had lost it would probably just have been a fun exhibition game.

Totally irrelevant.
The fact is that this was a scrimmage game that has affect on fan base.

As I wrote few times:
1) Any game has affect on fan base.
2) Winning a better team has bigger positive affect.
3) Losing to a lesser team has smaller negative affect.
4) Scrimmage games have smaller affect than a real-game, but it does have affect.

Users that tries to make their BB-managing easier need to pay for that.

Lol. You are a funny guy ,Pini. You can never admit that you are wrong. You will continue to argue no matter what. So I'll play along. So you are saying that fans should care about meaningless games? You use one example where only 1 side kind of cared about the result and you think that proves your point. Had Barca lost that game to LA it would have no effect on whether Barca supporters attending other matches. Barca beating the Lakers only made some Barca fans happy and most Laker fans did not know the game was even played and did not care about the result. Winning or lsoing scrimmages do not matter at all, that should be obvious. In Buzzerbeater,they only are to manage GS or get training minutes. C'mon now....

Well, nothing new on the suggestion forum.
And no more hope on my side that it will change (and I will leave that sentence stand and speak for its own).

Summary;
1) After users argue that the scrimmage have never had any affect on fan base, we got a definite response by another user proving that this is not true (and I'm using the nice words for what it really was, as it always is).

2) Then the argue changed to "that is the only case".
This is not the ONLY case, but the most known and recent one who gives the right picture for the topic.

3) That argue had also included a claim that the described fan base affect had happen due to the fact that a (supposedly) weaker team won a (supposedly) stronger team.
This is exactly another point I've brought on this suggestion thread:
A) Fans will be much more affected of a win (any win) when it is achieved against a stronger one.
B) Fans will be much more affected of a loss (on any game) when it is achieved against a weaker one.

4) "The primary purpose of a scrimmage is to give your team an extra day of training and experience."
And this is a tryout to interpret the game manual to: "The scrimmages has no affect on fan base".
Well, Primary is not Only, and current state is exactly what suggestion forum was set in order of changing and improving.