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From: Manouche

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232098.29 in reply to 232098.22
Date: 12/3/2012 6:08:30 PM
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You didn't answer the question, it doesn't matter.

Each season, you pay largely above 10M for the roster salaries.
Currently, your roster is 900k, yearly 12.6M. Compare these expenses with the 400k loss.
A loss that is the worst case of all, if you are unlucky enough to finish 1st of conference, win your PO games, gain HCA for the finals and reach game 3 of the finals. This is a really bad stroke of luck, hopefully, this can only happen to one team per league per season. The irony of course is intended, don't feel offended, it's funnier this way, nothing against you friend :)

The money that is redistributed by the new rule is 0.01% of the league total arena revenues. Not a made-up number, it should approx. be that.

1st place is financially the new 4th place.

Very difficult to listen to...
1st place is the best position to win the league prize and achieve promotion which is the best way to improve income.
1st is by far the best position financially and I guess that if I had the data to make a ranking of which final position usually earns the most during the season, 1st would be 1st.

Anyways, time will tell if teams lose games on purpose to finish 2nd or 3rd. I don't think anyone can believe will see that...

From: Manouche

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232098.30 in reply to 232098.23
Date: 12/3/2012 6:35:16 PM
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Top teams tank when they end a cycle and are cash-trapped.

You will have teams now paying relatively low salaries, making the playoffs as the 4th team in the division and buying a few monsters before the playoffs.

If they pay low salaries and managed to finish 4th, the conference level is too disparate and this is another problem. It happens frequently in first leagues, in many leagues, it will solve itself.

Sorry but what's the relevance with the rule change ? Why would they do this now and not before ?
Because they'd earn 50% instead of 33% if they win, seriously ?

This is why I asked how much the hypothetical loss weights in regards to a roster budget.
The loss is a mere 3% maximum of your annual roster salaries budget.
Anyways, I don't understand, this money was never guaranteed to anyone at the start of the season.

Really, aren't you overdramatizing ? Your current roster is paid 900K, if it had to be paid 875k, is it going to be that different ?
How is it that you seem to be sure to finish 1st or 2nd of your conf season after season ? Some final positions may have had too many advantages. It's ok in leagues where the winner is promoted, it's sometimes problems in top leagues because there is no way up.

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232098.31 in reply to 232098.24
Date: 12/3/2012 6:40:53 PM
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But they go in hand in hand, they are 2 parts of the same measure, don't you understand ?


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232098.32 in reply to 232098.31
Date: 12/3/2012 7:41:54 PM
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3rd place is the new 5th place. Everybody tank/lose/forfeit and go for 3rd!

If you remember me, then I don't care if everyone else forgets.
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232098.34 in reply to 232098.33
Date: 12/4/2012 5:55:10 AM
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For top leagues this might revitalize playoffs, often we would see teams just tanking the playoffs to avoid losing money in an unlikely away match.

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232098.35 in reply to 232098.33
Date: 12/4/2012 6:47:41 AM
Spartan 300
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Spartan Kids
From what I'm reading here, people just want more money. Big teams who usually finish 1st are defending their bread saying this is the end of BB. If you think 4th is a better way to win a league, well finish 4th and let's see.

People just want more money? No mate, people want just it was during 21 seasons before this one.
You are happy when you get less money?
Maybe you don't understand us because your biggest success is winning 2nd League? Then you got money for promotion, and what happen when some of us in 1st League win it, we all got a big 0.
Some users change the game it the way they like it, about the good managers no one cares.

You know what is the new award when you're good during the season and finish 1st? BB took from your 4 games 17% of money.
Long live the Cup (Tournament).

This is where we hold them!
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232098.36 in reply to 232098.35
Date: 12/4/2012 6:50:23 AM
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So let´s sum it up:

CHANGE CHANGE CHANGE!

Oh, wait. NOOOOOO. Let it stay just like it is.

Zwei Dinge sind unendlich, die Dummheit und das All...
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232098.38 in reply to 232098.37
Date: 12/4/2012 7:04:55 AM
Headless Thompson Gunners
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Canada Purple Haze BC
I think lost in all this is the new 5th place
Who wants to finish there?
Well...Nobody!!
So won't we now be seeing teams happier to place 6th & 7th than 5th,
you have to pay salaries and now and with relegation games you get some money.
We have just transfered one of the problems elsewhere

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232098.39 in reply to 232098.38
Date: 12/4/2012 7:13:38 AM
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You know how much money you lose by relegating? Any team aiming for 6th place and risking to lose their div by doing so (maybe because of an untimely injury) is invited to do so.

What the change really brings:

Place 5 is less interesting.
Place 4&3 have been upgraded and are for several reasons more interesting than place 6&7.
Place 1&2 still hold the upside by the (underestimated) homecourt advantage, but they lose some money.

Btw: Team 1 doens´t really lose that much, as in the final series over 2 or even 3 games you might actually end up getting more with the 50/50 than with the 66/33, at least if you´re underdog. So just the overall #1, who has HCA over the complete series is losing a bit (and only slightly, he might even play an opponent with a bigger arena than his own, making up for some).

Zwei Dinge sind unendlich, die Dummheit und das All...
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