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Patient is easy to stop if you can't mix it up reliably. I don't think having several players who shoot in the low 30s or even less in D2 and D3 like Haek or the finnish guy is a recipe for success.

Ideally I'd go something like this:
PG: https://i.imgur.com/k60A4nf.png Defend C
SG: https://i.imgur.com/Cex8Gqr.png Defend SG
SF: https://i.imgur.com/0n3RsUq.png Defend PG
PF: https://i.imgur.com/4Ucwzzc.png Defend SF
C: https://i.imgur.com/6wwGKvO.png Defend PF

118k+138k+129k+101k+192k = 678k
it leaves you room for 2 backups if you push ST high enough.
PG/C: https://i.imgur.com/L75NUcm.png
SG/SF/PF: https://i.imgur.com/1Agzj5P.png
89k+78k+678k = 845k is quite high so you might have to trim somewhere to drop to a more reasonable 750k-800k.

Pipe dream anyway.

It's unfortunate that ID cannot be punted enough in a build pushing IS/RB/SB, that would be interesting. Maybe they should change secondary training for inside skills. My next project in a few seasons will be to build elite players with as little HA/DR as possible and see what happens (I already know what happens with big men, Guards would be interesting too, but harder to achieve)


Last edited by Lemonshine at 3/14/2019 10:30:14 AM

I've actually had the same thought about building guards without DR and Handling training. I picture them essentially being spot open shooters and defenders. I'll try that next probably after the defensive builds.

For big men I already know what happens.
Vadikolias (30952612) was something like this:
7/6/7 1/1/6 17/16/14/5 (80 TSP)
You can see from his stats in D1 that he averaged 16/11 on 11 shots and overall he's had more assist than turnovers for me. I sold him at 34 and when other EBBL managers saw his skills they were shocked.

It appears this player has been dunking a lot more than normal and that HA was not a big factor in his Ast/TO ratio especially when playing C rather than PF...so, yes I hope that a low DR outside player will take less drives and more outside shots, possibly more of them assisted. The only problem is that keeping HA/DR low will make it very hard to push other outside skills to elite level, so it may not be viable D1 level players

Last edited by Lemonshine at 3/15/2019 1:05:28 PM

http://www.buzzerbeater.com/player/35310867/overview.aspx
I believe this is what You we're thinking about

Excellent player but I would not trained HA/DR but rebound having the possibility to put him as C or PF too

So Moltas Matsson is 33 yo now, he had his first dropps He was OD 18, ID 21, SB 20 at his prime...