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317998.29 in reply to 317998.28
Date: 2/15/2023 11:25:24 AM
Tampines Fusion
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Anyway found an interesting post: (317549.6)

Since Poland was 9th that week, it seems to imply that the cutoff point could be as little as every 5 ranks. Either that or it's a gradual drop - starting off at 15% then slowly goes down to 11% at WR 50+, instead of a clear cutoff point after every few WRs.

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Date: 2/19/2023 11:04:00 AM
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In my utopia team I have a player with nationality Utopia/Barbados
he is NT and i get 8.9% of his salary when he is in the 12 of the game.

if he were only barbados, merch would be lower, rigth? about 5.5-6% I guess.

And what about if he were drafted, utopia , barbados? More merchandising, not as t-shirts but in another point?


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317998.31 in reply to 317998.30
Date: 2/19/2023 11:22:34 AM
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Apparently jersey sales only involves 3 aspects: stats, NT appearance (only applies if they appear for that week, if they don't play that week no NT money), and Allstar.

If it's drafted players, that should be under the Homegrown and locals section, where there is no breakdown per player. But I doubt the bonus is really big. My whole squad (except for 2 players, who are also locals) are homegrown, and I only get like 60k+.

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Date: 2/19/2023 11:34:56 AM
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Apparently jersey sales only involves 3 aspects: stats, NT appearance (only applies if they appear for that week, if they don't play that week no NT money), and Allstar.

If it's drafted players, that should be under the Homegrown and locals section, where there is no breakdown per player. But I doubt the bonus is really big. My whole squad (except for 2 players, who are also locals) are homegrown, and I only get like 60k+.

You mean 60k for Homegrown and locals section?
it does not seem bad

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317998.33 in reply to 317998.32
Date: 2/19/2023 6:37:46 PM
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It's a decent enough amount to be significant, but that is from a 100% local team with over 400k of self drafted talent. Not sure if it's linear but sounds like if you only got 1 local NT player and the rest are foreigners, the amount you earn might not move any needles (meaning if you have a squad full of foreign players, it might not be worth the hassle of specially prioritizing local talent.

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317998.34 in reply to 317998.33
Date: 2/21/2023 2:31:33 PM
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Just a little update:

- 14.45% of the players' salary for my Spanish players (#8 in the World rankings)
- 9.95% of the player's salary for my Chinese player (#2 in the World rankings)

So yeah, my hypothesis would be that for national players the top is 15% if they are in the #1 team in the ranking and it drops around 0.08% per position in the ranking, while for foreigners it starts at 10% and it drops around 0.05% per position. If it is not that, it must be very close!

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Date: 2/22/2023 6:43:48 PM
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So yeah, my hypothesis would be that for national players the top is 15% if they are in the #1 team in the ranking and it drops around 0.08% per position in the ranking, while for foreigners it starts at 10% and it drops around 0.05% per position. If it is not that, it must be very close!

Gotta agree with you on the locals part. Seems spot on!

I was actually getting close to 11% (I just got a rounded number, didn't get the exact figure) merch for my NT player when Singapore NT was ranked 50. If we go by your calculations, I would get 11.08% of merch, which is indeed close to 11%. If it isn't a 0.08% drop per rank, it should be really close.

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317998.38 in reply to 317998.36
Date: 2/22/2023 7:51:48 PM
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Why I wasted 3 years of my life to train a player who will never play for any national team???

That's why if you're hunting for foreign talents, you should train players that come from micronations, like Singapore. There's a higher chance for your player to make the senior NT.

I remember many seasons ago, US NT had a "training camp" for 70 players for their NT. Which means that they had 70 potential senior NTs. Our whole U21 database isn't even that big, and our NT database even smaller. So if you really want NT bonus to offset your training salaries, do consider snapping up our young ones ;)

You can train 90 tsp player with the salary 200+k and 160 tsp player with the salary of 170k. It is big difference in the training time. Where is the satisfaction for years and years of training? Nowhere. And it is so stupid that players which reach 12 players squad earn money. So player who score 30+ points earn the same % of the salary as player who just appear on the bench...

Ironically in your example, the 160 tsp would actually earn more merch than the 90 tsp player. This is because the 90k player probably won't even make it into the top 60 NTs (he won't even be in the shortlist for Singapore, which are at 50+), therefore if he's a foreign player, he would likely only have close to 5% of his salary as merch. Meanwhile the 160 tsp player is probably good enough to be in a top 10 NT, so his merch would be around 9% of his salary. Coupled with the fact that you're actually paying 30k more per week for much less efficiency, it's not hard to tell which is worth more.

Also Dwight Howard is putting up solid numbers in Taiwan and is a star of Taoyuan Leopards, but his salary is still lower than that of Stanley Johnson's last salary as an end of the bench player at Spurs, which are tanking this season (meaning he can't even make the first 10 in the 3rd worst team in the NBA).

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317998.39 in reply to 317998.35
Date: 2/23/2023 6:28:22 AM
Folgado Lakers
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Yes! We've got it! We just need some extra data on the foreigners to see whether it fits the hypothesis.

Btw, I really like the way the calculation is performed. This adjustment by world ranking is a way to further compensate for the crazy salaries the big leagues have and not only rely on the TV income. For example, in Spain's first division, the average salaries are around 930k, while in most other countries are around 750k-800k. It is really expensive to compete in Spain...

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