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69685.29 in reply to 69685.28
Date: 2/4/2009 8:21:26 PM
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Excellent post, alot of good info. If I may ask.......

Do you sell a couple players per season to keep a constant stream of young replacing the less than young? If not you will find yourself with a team full of older players not getting pops nearly as fast, I presume.

Some of the trainings cannot be done as team training, does your team start falling behind in certain catagories or do you try and acquire players with these traits allready up a bit? Not being sarcastic, just trying to learn a bit.

Being a new team in a lower division (USA IV) I had to make choice based on limited resources, and I found I was filling my 'off-training' positions with more veteran players for two reasons

1. Cheaper. I was getting pretty good players for cheap because of thier shorter shelf life. Since I am training 6 inside guys I plan to sell 2 next season to get better and younger on the outside. In my situation my off-training guys are more expendable long term anyway, as I improve with money, not training (atm)

2. Experience. I have seen a difference of opinion on the actual importance of it and how much. Having two PG with nearly identical skill levels but different experience levels, I feel it does in my limited experience. With a bunch of 7' tall 18 year olds running around under the basket, its nice to have that vet, imho.

I definitely want to get younger as well as stronger when my resources allow, and I may choose a more team training set-up.

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69685.30 in reply to 69685.29
Date: 2/5/2009 1:58:33 AM
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Yes, I tend to sell / buy one or two players a season, and I'm probably more likely to keep draft picks than other teams. Last season, getting relegated from the English first division meant I got good draft picks, so two of them are in the side and training well.

And, yes, particularly for defensive skills - if I'm buying a new inside player, I insist on them having at least reasonable OD since I know I won't be able to train that. Likewise, I expect guards that I buy to come pre-packaged with OD and RB. I do still train those skills for the players who need them, but they take second place to 1v1, outside shooting, passing, etc., which can be whole-team trained.

You're right about expense and experience. I noticed in the the first couple of seasons, that my team finished games badly. I knew it wasn't stamina or game shape, and I think experience was to blame.

Overall, this approach probably made my first few seasons harder than it would have been for a 'traditional' train 1 or 2 positions and fill the other half of the court with experience team. But (a) it's only a game and I enjoy knowing that my players have been with me for most / all of their career, and (b) it's a long haul, not a sprint, the result of this approach is only now starting to show, and I think success will be all the sweeter for having been home-grown.

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69685.31 in reply to 69685.30
Date: 2/5/2009 3:07:30 AM
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Thanks, certainly something to consider. I have trained team JS twice randomly, but its not quite as effective with my 4 thirty-somethings. I am happy with my first season results so far, but always thinking ahead. Good info.

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69685.32 in reply to 69685.30
Date: 2/6/2009 9:46:34 AM
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reasonable OD


Is that in between average and respectable?

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69685.33 in reply to 69685.32
Date: 2/6/2009 1:26:40 PM
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;)

It's a variable amount depending on how much I like the player in question! I certainly wouldn't buy someone now with less than average defensive skills.