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From: Marot

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152075.294 in reply to 152075.293
Date: 8/16/2010 3:06:46 PM
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I doubt we arrive to 200k users since the economy is getting complicated season after season and most common for new users is that they dont keep playing the game.

Apart from that on Spain we are only 5,6k users and we could be 25k or more without problem(but i suppose this is going off-topic...)

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152075.295 in reply to 152075.283
Date: 8/18/2010 5:06:11 AM
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Relax, I know what I want. I'm not looking to buy something cheap. I'm willing to wait until I have enough money to get what I want.

I know I'm going to be accused of whining because I'm Italian, but I have to say just one thing.

You know where's the difference between you (or another "small" country manager) and a "big" country manager that says the same thing?

Time.

(remembe, before I go on with my example, that the more people there's in a country the more competitivity rise, because of the bigger number of good managers, so less W, less income from public, less income from merchandising, and so on)

You will need an amount of time, to gather the money you need, of let's say X. A team playing in II in a "big" country (for example, Italy), will need an amount of time equal to X² (no jokes on X being one, please, you know what I mean!) and he'll not even be sure to reach his goal.

I know I'm from a lesser league and I have to avoid big projects on buying players, but it's about a couple of weeks now that I'm looking for a player that can be useful as SF. I know Ill'never be able to buy someone as good as I would like. I need just someone suitable for a IV league here in Italy.
Well, you know? I didn't buy anyone because each player I could afford was too weak, and each player who had the minimum skills to play decently was too high in price, due to all the small nations managers (who can afford to buy even overpriced players) making prices rise.

Now I'll have to sell at least one good guy playing in another role to reach the amount of money that can allow me to buy someone not even as good as I'd need, but slightly weaker. That means, renforcing a position in my team, but weakening another position and losing a still trainable (that means someone I could sell later for a higher price) guy.

You talk a lot about first divisions, but it's people in lesser divisions that's struggling more trying to make the end of each season not bankrupting and not relegating.

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152075.296 in reply to 152075.295
Date: 8/18/2010 5:45:05 AM
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100% agree.

Teams from lesser leagues have to deal with negative numbers, around -0k to -400k. Not to talk that when you have to buy a new coach is a ''drama'', consedering to sell 1 player to buy a coach, and most of the times the coach you want is being overrated paying more money than the team will safe, and a clearlly a bad business.

From: dabomby

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152075.297 in reply to 152075.287
Date: 8/18/2010 7:14:54 AM
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This week only one game again. I'm playing away.

Question - why BB don't make equally finances this week for home and away teams (league games)? Why one side namely this week forced incur losses? :)


I can understand the sentiment.. but unless I'm reading the schedule wrong:

21/08/2010 15:30:00 2 Hero home arena -- 1 BC Hypnotic

You're at home on the 1 league game played this week. The economic update is on sunday night/monday morning and you're at home saturday.

That said, teams with no home game this week will have a week on their schedule with 2 home games to make up for it. So as was stated previously, look at finances on a larger scale and things will work out in the long run. Managing finances day to day and week to week doesn't work well in life or in BB.

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152075.298 in reply to 152075.296
Date: 8/18/2010 8:15:01 AM
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You know, I'm not an expert on coaches, I'm stuck on a lvl 4 coach since my second season (season 8), and when my first lvl 4 started earning too much, I had to fire him (what a pain in the a**! I had to pay him a week, plus paying the price to hire the new one!) and find a coach of the same level who was earning much less...
That is exactly what I'm saying: in small countries to be competitive you don't need to have the same kind of expensive roster as we have to in big countries. That means saving a lot of money and being able, after half a season, to afford buying a player I need at least a couple of seasons of genius managing, both on the field and by the bank, and luck (to avoid relegations) to afford.

That's what's not fair, not that in BBB there are "monster teams" from small countries. A top league team can survive anyway, even if it gets kicked of from BBB at first round. It's us, playing in lesser level leagues, the ones drowning.

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152075.300 in reply to 152075.299
Date: 8/18/2010 8:36:41 AM
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I understand that training a good SF is as much a pain in the a** as it is rewarding when you sell him, but to train a good SF I have to loose a lot in competitivity (that means also losing incomes) for a long time, risking to relegate. That's why I was looking for a guy let's say "half trained". To save money and to have at least a player looking (from very far) like a SF.

Just to make you know: I'm not sure, even selling a fairly good trainee, that I'll be able to afford a player like him:

Age: 24
Height: 6'9" / 206 cm
Potential: MVP
Game Shape: respectable

Jump Shot: strong Jump Range: mediocre ↑
Outside Def.: strong Handling: average
Driving: mediocre Passing: awful
Inside Shot: proficient Inside Def.: strong
Rebounding: proficient Shot Blocking: average
Stamina: mediocre Free Throw: mediocre

Experience: awful

I just have to wish nobody from a country having less than 100 users is going to fancy him (maybe because in his hipotetical "Dontknowwhere Republic" II.1 he's good enough to make the difference), because I know that at the end of the auction I'll be short of thousands and I'll have to give up.
Now, you know what I mean?

Edit: I don't know if I'll ever see 2.9 millions on my team account... ever!

Last edited by TheMaxx © at 8/18/2010 8:37:29 AM

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152075.302 in reply to 152075.300
Date: 8/18/2010 9:08:18 AM
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Leave your team, go for a holiday to Malta and start playing there ;-)

You are fighting against Italian teams in IV., so you don't need to compare your team to any other team out of Italy. All of your real opponents have similar conditions as you. Only question is how competitive you can be after promotion to Italian III or how competitive you can be in Italian cup.

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152075.303 in reply to 152075.300
Date: 8/18/2010 9:09:59 AM
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Yep, for a lower league team nowadays the market seems like a poker table for average people.

You try to earn something with the few money you have but then, here it comes the big fat a** rich man who doesn't care anything about money 'cause he got plenty of it.

He doesn't need to be talented to win, he just have to make big raises until you're out of money....

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152075.304 in reply to 152075.302
Date: 8/18/2010 10:07:39 AM
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Maybe my English is not as good as I thought it was.
I never said I'm complaining about being more or less competitive againist teams in my league, moreover because this is a thread about economy.
What I'm saying, and read carefully because I'm not speaking just about my team, I'm speaking about all teams in the same conditions of mine, is that it's almost impossible to buy a decent player on the market because I'll never have enough money to compete againist players from small countries.
You saw the player I was talking about, and you saw the comment about it made by Smedlock? Well, I'll never have enough money to buy a player as good as he said because I'll always have to fight againist people who's making in a week the same money I'll make in a season, but only if I'm lucky.

My question is quite simple: why people playing from a small country can have the chance to make up a good team in, say, two seasons, and I have to struggle for years (not seasons, I mean really years) to buy a SF?

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