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381.299 in reply to 381.1
Date: 1/25/2008 7:09:52 PM
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Rebounding
C/PF:

Trains RB @ 2-3 weeks
Trains ID @ 4-5 weeks
Trains IS @ 4-5 weeks

After 8 weeks, of rebounding training, I have a trifle more information than I had here (381.266), but not much. My training since the 23rd of November has looked like this:

11/30 Rebounding C/PF (9)
12/7 Rebounding C/PF (9)
12/14 Team Stamina (9)
12/20 Rebounding C/PF (9)
12/27 Rebounding C/PF (8)
1/3 Rebounding C/PF (8)
1/10 Rebounding C/PF (8)
1/17 Rebounding C/PF (8)
1/24 Rebounding C/PF (8)

My trainees, all of whom get better than 48min/wk and who have (thankfully) been injury-free:

19yo: (~1.75wks/lvl)
11/30 respectable RB
(12/14 stamina)
12/27 strong RB
1/3 proficient RB
1/17 prominent RB
1/24 prolific RB

20yo: (~1.75 wks/lvl)
11/30 average RB
(12/14 stamina)
12/20 respectable RB
1/3 strong RB, respectable IS
1/10 proficient RB
1/24 prominent RB

23yo: (~2.3 wks/lvl)
11/30 average RB
(12/14 stamina)
12/27 respectable RB
1/10 strong RB
1/24 proficient RB

24yo: (~2.5 wks/lvl)
12/7 average RB
(12/14 stamina)
1/3 respectable RB
1/17 strong RB

So the primary of RB has a slight variance with age, ranging from <2 wks/lvl for a 19-20yo, up to about 2.5wks/lvl for a 24yo. The secondaries, however, are quite disheartening, and all the hope of the first post here is shot to hell by my results.

In 8 weeks, only one player has popped in IS, and none of my guys have seen an increase in ID. So the chart should look more like this:

Rebounding
C/PF:
Trains RB @ 1-3 weeks
Trains IS @ ???
Trains ID @ ???


Edited by darykjozef (1/25/2008 7:12:44 PM CET)

Last edited by darykjozef at 1/25/2008 7:12:44 PM

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381.300 in reply to 381.299
Date: 1/25/2008 7:56:45 PM
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yeah the secondaries havent worked too well for me... but i did get 2 ID pops training RB this week.. but not worthy to report as no doubt sub levels were very high.... nice research by the way...

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381.303 in reply to 381.302
Date: 1/26/2008 2:15:40 AM
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what is the second or third pops of following training ?

Rebound
Handling
Outside Denfence
Jump Range

Thank you very much !


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381.305 in reply to 381.302
Date: 1/26/2008 5:39:39 AM
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I'd have to guess it's even longer than 7-8 weeks, as I trained for 8 weeks and had almost no results. I'd guess at least 9-10, if not longer.

I'd further speculate that the secondary training is designed to work better when training is rotated between skills, rather than sticking with one kind of training for an extended period.

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381.306 in reply to 381.305
Date: 1/26/2008 12:09:14 PM
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Yeah I have to agree with this statement.

I trained shotblocking for about 4 weeks in a row (C/PF), got 3 pops there on 1 18yo center and two on the other 18yo center, and 1 on rebounding in the 1st week (that's because I trained rebounding before that, so high subskill) and no pops in inside defense.

But after that I trained 1 week rebounding, got a pop there on both 18yo centers, then I trained 1 week inside defense and got 1 pop on my 18 yo center.

So I think secondary training is about 15-20% of the normal amount of training. So I would say secondary training takes about 5 times as long as primary. But this is just a guess, maybe more numbers will make this clear in the next season.



Edited by PatjeBono (1/26/2008 12:10:26 PM CET)

Last edited by BB-Patrick at 1/26/2008 12:10:26 PM

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381.308 in reply to 381.307
Date: 1/30/2008 4:53:50 AM
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You should first read a bit around before doing something.

I would suggest training Free Trows or Stamina if you haven't got a decent training program yet.

Then check out your selection, bring it down to about 11-12 players, see if you have trainable players (18/19 yo) with good stats and start training them. If you haven't got at least 2 players for 1 training method (so f.e not 2 centers or 1 center and 1 pf) then you should try to buy one on the TL for not that much.

First try to fix your economy after that you can see wether you can buy a better trainer or not.

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381.309 in reply to 381.308
Date: 1/30/2008 1:43:58 PM
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With regards to the economy, how long will $100k last me?

I have the 3 cheapest traines, 15 players salaries to pay, and that should be my expenses right?

I guess I should wait for the next economy update to see what money I def have coming in and out.....

But any clues as to what trainers I can afford, and also how much I can afford on the draft each week?

Cheers :)

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