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From: TnT

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Date: 2/7/2010 11:45:50 AM
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I went with the same assumption going into yesterday game. But after watching the game live and looking at my PG/C stats, I think the PG is really near the basket. With the defensive matchup, I easily switch it up so the C will be under the basket though. Just wish this is documented somewhere so I don't have to play this guessing game.

From: saman1812

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Date: 2/7/2010 2:56:17 PM
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After spending years playing basketball on numerous levels we always had the center playing the bunny under the basket with the best perimeter defender at the top of the key.

so here is how we used to run the 1-3-1

.............O.............
.............................
..............PG.............
.............................
SG..........PF..........SF
.............................
..............C.............
basket

this way the center protects the basket and the pg is able to pick up the ball

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Date: 2/7/2010 3:05:38 PM
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That is definitely one way it is played in real basketball.

But when we played 1-3-1 in college, we always put are quickest forward at the bottom of the 1-3-1 so they could run the baseline to trap in the corners so we played it like this:

..............O..............

..............................

.............PG..............

..............................

SG..........C............PF

..............................

.............SF..............

...........basket...........


I think it just depends on what the coach is trying to get out of the 1-3-1 zone.

As for buzzerbeater, it would be nice to know how the positions are distributed on the 1-3-1 zone. I have a feeling that they have it set up more like your example so the PF and C are closer to the basket, but that is not conclusive.

From: chris902

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I haven't played a lot of 1-3-1 zone (in BB) but I think that most corner three point attempts are contested by players on the wing of the zone, not guy at the bottom in the game engine. If this is in fact the case then I find it pretty unlikely that the simulator would run the PG on the bottom of the zone.

I think that it currently runs as:

..............................

.............PG..............

..............................

SG..........PF............SF

..............................

.............C..............

...........basket...........



Another related question:
I can't figure out who is playing where on a 3-2 zone. I know that the PG-SG-SF are on the outside (obviously) but I can't figure out who is playing in the middle and who is on the wings. Presumably it'd be the PG in the middle, but simulations don't seem to give a clear indication of whether or not that is in fact what's happening.

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Date: 2/8/2010 12:13:54 AM
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i still play basketball and whenever we play the 1-3-1 we position like this:

.................BASKET...............

..................C.....................

SG or PF........SF.............SG or PF

.................PG.......................

i think u put your most athletic guy in the middle to try and intercept the pass.

I'm only 15 though so wat do i know?

From: TnT

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Date: 2/8/2010 5:27:14 PM
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My thinking was along the same lines as you guys, center nearest the basket and PG at top of the key. Maybe my last game was just one of those out of the norm but I saw 2 observations that caused me to question the players positions: (a) PG getting more defensive rebounds (b) C getting less RB then his norm avg and half of his RB are offensive. I figure in a 1-3-1, the center would be getting much more rebounds but that was not the case in my last game.

From: BigKnickFan

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Date: 2/8/2010 8:14:32 PM
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If your opponent put up a lot of outside shots (i.e. motion, Princeton, r&g), then there may have been a lot of long rebounds. That could account for PG's high number of rebounds.