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From: JON

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153616.3 in reply to 153616.2
Date: 8/7/2010 11:22:08 AM
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I'm saying it's unrealistic and illogical to have a respectable jump shooter and atrocious free throw shooter. it doesn't work that way in real life. All the greatest shooters are among the best free throw shooters as well. The only atrocious free throw shooters have generally been big men who can't shoot.

From: Kukoc

To: JON
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Date: 8/7/2010 6:52:29 PM
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Is it realistic, that you can just fit more and more seats into your arena? Is it realistic that your staff asks for a small raise every week? Is it realistic you can sell players in basketball and pay tax based on his time spent on a team? Is it realistic that the players for the top Countrys play in x countrys IV-th league? everything about training, salarys etc etc.
You need to stick with unrealistic sometimes, when it suits the game better.
If you will tie FT to JS then it will make team training FT pointless.

From: JON

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153616.5 in reply to 153616.4
Date: 8/7/2010 8:23:05 PM
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I agree when it suits the game better to deal with the unrealistic.

What my complaint is about doesn't suit the game well. I need to waste weeks of training a good shooter @ free throws? What goofy ****. I don't think it needs to be tied necessary but remain close, similar to driving/handling.

I hope that isn't your best argument, because "oh it'll make free throws pointless to train". Shot blocking and Game Shape are both already useless.

Edit: No swearing please.

Last edited by RiP at 8/8/2010 10:51:20 AM

From: Naker Virus

To: JON
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Date: 8/7/2010 9:19:32 PM
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I think shotblocking is underrated. As for gameshape there are times when it is worth training. So shotblocking and gameshape are not useless.

From: kLepTo

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Date: 8/7/2010 10:12:55 PM
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My take on this is to leave it as is.

But if you insist on a fix, I think the best way to change JS training from:

(from Training Analysis thread)

Guards:
Trains JS @ 2-3 weeks
Trains JR @ 7-8 weeks
Trains HN @ 7-8 weeks
Trains DV @ 7-8 weeks

To

Trains JS @ 3-4 weeks
Trains JR @ 8-10 weeks
Trains HN @ 8-10 weeks
Trains DV @ 8-10 weeks
Trains FT @ 6-8 weeks

... or something similar.

From: JON

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153616.8 in reply to 153616.6
Date: 8/7/2010 11:03:36 PM
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yes they're both completely useless to train.

From: Naker Virus

To: JON
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Date: 8/7/2010 11:33:47 PM
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No they aren't.

From: Kukoc

To: JON
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153616.10 in reply to 153616.5
Date: 8/8/2010 2:15:19 AM
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The game is not a sprint. If you don't like the player and do not plan to train FT's more than once in a season. Perhaps just sell him and buy a player that suits your needs. What is your next request? Being able to train anything at any position?
GS training has it's place (for salary capped teams or teams with game shape problems before playoffs). FT training can be used with lvl1 trainer and 20+ players for example.

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153616.11 in reply to 153616.8
Date: 8/8/2010 2:25:10 AM
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I totally disagree with you. Shotblocking not only helps players to block shots, it improves their ability to play inside defense. Training GS improves how well your players perform on the court. Both of those facts make me believe that training those skills can be of great value to your team's success.

Once I scored a basket that still makes me laugh.
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153616.12 in reply to 153616.11
Date: 8/11/2010 9:29:03 AM
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In my eyes shotblocking is useless training. I can't imagine bigman which I recommend shotblocking training rather than IS, ID or rebounding. Additional value of higher shotblocking is not equal wage it costs.
GS training can be usefull in some specific situations. I have used it several times.

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153616.13 in reply to 153616.12
Date: 8/15/2010 5:33:42 AM
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Shotblocking isn't entirely useless to train, it's good for fine tuning. You might want to take SB from 6 to 9 rather than ID from 16 to 19, depending on what salary you can afford.

It's definitely worthwhile to have some SB on court, but not double-figure levels in terms of performance versus salary, I would suggest.

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