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my training minutes would gone silly to, but blowout time( sry for the garbage but we call it so even in german so i think we use the right english term) is used to give player with less playing time a chanche to compete ... But this isn't just the second row, this is especially the third row and when a starter was sitting onn the bench the whole game he would his game practice too ...

If you say it to protect "noobs" from getting crushed, this is silly in this game because the second row is sometimes stroger then the first one, esspecialy against weak opponents.

And this system won't save my trainings minutes, but its sometimes silly if 2 Backup plays 40 minutes(or even 30+) and the starters mostly under 20.(nand the third row who mostly profit rom blowout time, get 3 minutes^^)

Edit: Why is garbage time such a bad word? http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Garbage_time

Last edited by CrazyEye at 2/14/2008 6:15:11 PM

mmh maybe they could change that 48 minute training rule, instead of fasten the training they could raise the minutes to max, you could choose then to concentrate and train faster on less players and a bigger risk of an injury, or try to train more players with less risk and maybe better gameshape, if training is based on playing time, more playing time should bring more train,
or just take it away from playing time and make the training seperated from games, like you choose in a menu from your overall training time which players get how much, by also risking injuries.

that instead of playing cup/league-games with b-team or c-team...

Nothing wrong with calling it garbage time, I'd just never heard it called that =)

I think most of what you are saying is a direct result of how managers routinely set lineups based on how BB uses minutes played to affect training and Game Shape and how the coach picks from your depth chart. The fact that the strongest players are sometimes set as backups or reserves in order to spread playing minutes more evenly across all players is what makes garbage time frustrating.

The only way around this from a suggestions perspective is to make Game Shape random, and completely removed from playing minutes. Then the only issue with garbage time would be making certain your trainees got appropriate playing time to train effectively.

First of all in America it is called garbage time. IT comes from playing the worst players on your team and giving them minutes that are equal to garbage because they don't matter. Now on to why this forum was actually created. I won all 3 games this week by a total of 119 points and my 11th player played 17 minutes and my 12th player played 2 minutes. Both of them should have been playing a lot more considering i had each game wrapped up before the 4th quarter even started. Why should i even keep them in my lineup if they are not going to play when I'm up 50. Also if a player got hurt in the last 3 minutes of a game when my 11th or 12th player should have been on the court would be a reason for a coach to be fined or fired.

I think there should be non garbage time in the playoff finals. As simple as that.
It's an unnecessary risk of an hart attack :)

Secondly, I am in favor of garbage (unlike other users), but I think it should apply to both winning and losing teams.

I'm strongly perplexed by how the garbage time/blowout rule is working right now.

The thing that i find mostly unpleasant is about the final result of the match.
I just lost a PL game after being 24 points ahead at the end of 3rd. Then my bench got on the field and in 5 minutes the 24 points became 9, and only then my starters got back. Then the fatigue accumulated by my full-court press finished the job and i lost at OT :)
While i don't really care about today match, i don't think that stuff like this should easily happen in a PO or important RS match. Sure my opponent can have a miracle 4th quarter, but AUTOMATICALLY giving him the chanche to get 15 pts for free is plain ridicolous.

In my opinion garbage time should be atleast optional, or apply for both teams.
As it is now, when i put my best 5 men on the floor (and the bench is sadly not as strong) i know that ending the 3rd quarter winning by 21 is much more worse than ending it winning by 15. I shouldn't be scared of being winning of more than 20 points, damn! :P

I'm very curious of hearing the opinion of a BB about it, of what they had in mind when they decided it to work like this, and if they think it's ok as it is now.

I think there should be non garbage time in the playoff finals. As simple as that.
It's an unnecessary risk of an hart attack :)

Secondly, I am in favor of garbage (unlike other users), but I think it should apply to both winning and losing teams.

I agrre with first proposal,because i don't think that in a single game of Po any team plays wihout attention
About the second...i think that the losing team should maintain his starters on the field,if they not recover in a short time at least a little bit of disadvantage,garbace time should be applied also to the losing team

it should just be optional, and that's it.
making it mandatory is a poor, poor choice.

I agree 100%. I have been worried in the past about messing up a better teams training and shape minutes by fielding a considerably weaker set of players than the better team's back-ups. On two occasions I have warned them that he may blow me out. I dont want anyone to regret accepting a friendly with me.

Someone before said it is unrealistic to have to play a slower offense because of worries over the blowout rule. I see this all the time in the NBA, but only in the 4th quarter or late in the game. Teams way ahead seem to try and use up all of the 24, even if it means a poorer shot. Of course we dont have 4th quarter options, but overall I dont believe it is that unrealistic.

Last edited by Heathcoat at 1/31/2009 5:49:16 PM