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169996.3 in reply to 169996.2
Date: 1/12/2011 5:27:09 AM
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The foreign trainee is currently priced at 650,000. But the bidding will close on the 14th of Jan.

Price is not a big issue for me. If they are not sold this time round, I will offer them up at cheaper prices.

Just hoping Malaysian managers will take the initiative to purchase local good trainees instead of foreign ones.

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169996.4 in reply to 169996.3
Date: 1/12/2011 7:47:40 AM
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Agreed on the last point :)


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169996.5 in reply to 169996.3
Date: 1/12/2011 8:32:45 AM
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Just would like to share an experience I had on BB last 2 weeks. I saw a very good 21yo player on the market. The dateline was 5:00 am so I had to wake up at 4:50 am to prepare to bid for the player. The player was from another country and every time someone tried to outbid me, I will just raise the price again.
Very soon, I started receiving BB Mails from managers from the foreign country. One asked if I wanted to get a trainee and offered his 21 yo player instead.
Another manager also asked why I was so insistent to get the player when the player was almost close to the potential soft cap already and needed to be trained on non-main skills to not reach the soft cap.
After that, a third manager from the same foreign country was bidding for the player (most likely due to the first two managers did not have enough money). At that point, I decided the community was very strong and probably has great plans for the player, so decided to not bid anymore.

What I am trying to share is it is very touching to see managers so passionate about the training of their NT players and how they are so united that they will work together to ensure the training regime for their potential NT players are not jeopordised.

So yes, Phenom has pointed a very valid point. Why is it that even after posting on the forums that there are good potential 18yo malaysian players on the TL, do we have managers opting for foreign players instead?

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169996.6 in reply to 169996.1
Date: 1/12/2011 9:08:13 AM
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Buying of players is an individual choice, it wouldn't be right to pick on managers who choose to go foreign. That's why getting a band of players together that can work as training bases for the NT is so important. I'm keeping an eye out for local talent on the transfer list.

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169996.7 in reply to 169996.6
Date: 1/12/2011 9:12:59 AM
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I juz have one thing to say to Spaz plz dun go for outside player as I dun think i can outbid you. ;(

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169996.8 in reply to 169996.7
Date: 1/12/2011 9:27:50 AM
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I'm dead broke with zero income every week if I'm lucky, negative if I'm not. I'm surfing the bargain bin.

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169996.9 in reply to 169996.6
Date: 1/12/2011 12:21:19 PM
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Not picking on any player or team here.

But if in your words, allowing local managers continue to purchase foreign trainees instead of local ones, then the long list of talented local trainees that go untrained will continue to pile up and go wasted.

This of course leads to a less competitive and talented NT. So when exactly is our U21s and NT going to rise up to be at the very least the top 3 in BB Asia? (Looking at the present group of U21s, it looks to be weaker than 2 or 3 seasons ago)

Its like continuing a cycle of non-productivity.

And KwaiWah has certainly showed us why the other teams are at least taking a concerted effort to preserve and localize the training of their players. We should have more of this in Malaysia.

Why go out and spend big money on foreign trainees when at present case the Malaysian trainee is better. Certainly a puzzling scenario.

Last edited by OpTic.Phenom at 1/12/2011 12:28:20 PM

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169996.10 in reply to 169996.9
Date: 1/12/2011 6:34:50 PM
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Am looking at 18 -19 y.o local GUARD with at least superstar potential. Any decent one in the transfer market. At least inept in all the required main skill. PG or SG

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169996.11 in reply to 169996.10
Date: 1/12/2011 8:44:21 PM
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It's of course good if we can have a strong and united community here to safeguard and improve our U-21 and NT players. On the other hand, foreign teams owning our precious players may not be a bad thing altogether. Some of these foreign teams are so committed to training the player that they've gone the length of employing expensive top notch coaches as well as being very disciplined in the training regiment.

BB is different from Hattrick at this moment coz the team owners are more committed to training while teams in Hattrick nowadays are more mercenary in nature. But I do agree with Kwaiwah as in that we need a group of committed team owners, hopefully with cash as well. Setting a TB (training base) program is not difficult and right now it will not be big coz our community is still small and with little resources.

Last 2 seasons I tried looking for a young guard from Malaysia but at that period, none was available so I ended up with an Argentinian boy. He's been tracked by his country's U-21 at the moment. But there's a local good potential available this season, I will trade the Argentinian for him.

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169996.13 in reply to 169996.12
Date: 1/12/2011 11:51:50 PM
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Maybe this is partly where the problem lies.

Now is the time to focus on the new generation of trainees not those which are already over 22 and in the senior NT.
A little improvisation to a player or two won't make THAT much of a difference.

If a large pool of under 21s are started being trained in proper fashion now, the U21s and NT will benefit in future. It's time to start from the young trainees.

And Terfu, maybe some new managers are unaware of how to properly train their trainees.What about the Mentorship Program? Was it something that was talked about in the forums but not properly conducted?

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