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170012.3 in reply to 170012.1
Date: 1/12/2011 6:41:59 AM
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I assume you want to make him a SG or outside SF.

No matter how much elasticity does to improve your player - his OD should at least be respectable before proceeding. A SG/SF with less OD will be a huge detriment to your defense.

Afterwards, I'd advise you to train 1 on 1 for wings. This will raise his Handling, JS and IS further, and help with the elastic effect. Once he reaches proficient driving or so, train either JS or Passing - depending on what you need more by then.

Good luck with him. He's quite a talentbut you need to stick to him long enough.

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170012.4 in reply to 170012.1
Date: 1/12/2011 7:57:18 AM
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Rule no. 1 if you want to train him to be a monster - you should do as much single position training as possible when he's still young.

Rule no. 2 - This is my own theory of how elasticity training works: JS/JR/OD, HD/DV/PA, IS/ID/RB, the skills within these 3 skills sets are closely related. E.g. OD>>JR would speed up JR training, ID>>IS would speed up IS training. So make your own plan according to what sort of player you want.

Last edited by 7ton at 1/12/2011 9:39:37 AM

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170012.5 in reply to 170012.3
Date: 1/12/2011 8:00:30 AM
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Yea. I was looking at SG / SF.

I'm not too worried about the OD for now. I don't plan to use him in any real matches, unless as a sub.

Most of the teams in my division aren't really competitive teams just yet as they are new. So I'm pretty sure I can manage that. Next season, IF I promote, I won't be winning many games... so again its alright that he is a detriment.

So in terms of being a competitive player, am not too worried.

Based on that... any suggestions for a regime?

The reason I'm reluctant to start a 1 position training regime for this early part of the season is because I simply have way too many trainees.

I had 2nd last pick and definitely did not expect to get this guy... so I bought another trainee instead.


Jože Zelen (12229927) Shooting Guard

Weekly salary: $ 21 426
Role: draws a paycheck
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DMI: 39200
Age: 22
Height: 6'0" / 183 cm
Potential: superstar
Game Shape: respectable
Jump Shot: wondrous Jump Range: proficient
Outside Def.: sensational Handling: proficient
Driving: sensational Passing: mediocre
Inside Shot: mediocre Inside Def.: pitiful
Rebounding: atrocious Shot Blocking: awful
Stamina: awful ↑ Free Throw: awful

Experience: awful


I also have these two sub trainees


Mohd Rizalruddin Ariffin (15028166) Shooting Guard

Weekly salary: $ 7 600
Role: regular starter
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DMI: 43700
Age: 20
Height: 6'3" / 190 cm
Potential: perennial allstar
Game Shape: respectable
Jump Shot: prolific Jump Range: respectable
Outside Def.: proficient Handling: strong
Driving: proficient Passing: strong
Inside Shot: inept Inside Def.: pitiful
Rebounding: atrocious Shot Blocking: atrocious
Stamina: inept ↑ Free Throw: average

Experience: atrocious
Ahmad Izwan Abdullah (15028256) Shooting Guard

Weekly salary: $ 15 241
Role: rotation player
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DMI: 174600
Age: 20
Height: 6'3" / 190 cm
Potential: star
Game Shape: respectable
Jump Shot: proficient Jump Range: proficient
Outside Def.: prolific Handling: strong
Driving: strong Passing: strong
Inside Shot: respectable Inside Def.: pitiful
Rebounding: average Shot Blocking: respectable
Stamina: strong Free Throw: inept

Experience: pitiful


So I was considering the following:

Training JS until the tax on the Joze drops and reselling him and concentrate on my local players with 1 position training OD (Abdullah would be the 3rd one who picks up the leftover minutes)...

Or selling Riz now... so he gets proper training. And one position train Aslam, Joze on OD (with Abdullah again picking up leftover minutes)



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170012.6 in reply to 170012.4
Date: 1/12/2011 8:02:18 AM
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JR & OD are related? This is news to me! (not being sarcastic btw)


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170012.7 in reply to 170012.5
Date: 1/12/2011 9:08:14 AM
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Sell Riz, he's too weak for a 20yo to be good enough for a second or first league. Train the other three guys one position in OD, Passing and JR alternatingly.

The elasticity theory I've heard is that the relevant help skills for skill are those that are being trained with this skill's main training type. Since OD trains ID and Handling, those are the skills that are important for OD training to be sped up or slowed down by elasticity. Similarly, JS training depends on IS and JR, etc.

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170012.8 in reply to 170012.4
Date: 1/12/2011 9:17:30 AM
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Rule no. 1 if you want to train him to be a monster - you should do as much single position training as possible when he's still young, so no JS/DV/RB training until his early twenties.


why?

Edit: About the elastic effect -> depends on the theory:

A: Start with the low skills, till they are all close together, and keep it like that till you want to specialise him

B: Start with driving and handling because they are trained with every other skill set, and are that why important for the speed of those trainings.

Last edited by CrazyEye at 1/12/2011 9:21:24 AM

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170012.9 in reply to 170012.8
Date: 1/12/2011 9:43:17 AM
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Rule no. 1 if you want to train him to be a monster - you should do as much single position training as possible when he's still young, so no JS/DV/RB training until his early twenties.


why?

Edit: About the elastic effect -> depends on the theory:

A: Start with the low skills, till they are all close together, and keep it like that till you want to specialise him

B: Start with driving and handling because they are trained with every other skill set, and are that why important for the speed of those trainings.

Now you ask me to think twice I think "no JS/DV/RB training until his early twenties" may not be necessarily true. But you definitely want to avoid doing OD training in 2 positions, for example. And as a general rule, one should prioritize training those skills that can be trained by single position first, to shorten the training time required for those "2 position skills". E.g. JR before JS, IS/ID before RB.

I have already explained my own elastic thoery. I don't believe HD and DV are that important.

Last edited by 7ton at 1/12/2011 9:48:23 AM

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170012.10 in reply to 170012.9
Date: 1/12/2011 10:34:18 AM
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ok, if it just train one position if possible then i am with you :)

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170012.11 in reply to 170012.1
Date: 1/12/2011 7:46:27 PM
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I would give him Pressure training until the All Star Break( you might get lucky and get a ID and handling to pop). I would do a week of JS wingman and 1 on 1 F's( for his IS) and the 2 weeks of passing. And then go back to Pressure until the offseason. Good Luck

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170012.12 in reply to 170012.11
Date: 1/13/2011 11:38:18 AM
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thanks guys :)

appreciate the comments and suggestions...


bye bye riz :(