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171465.3 in reply to 171465.2
Date: 1/19/2011 9:16:11 PM
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But the draft to a certain extent should have a bit of randomness...

Kwame Brown anyone?

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171465.5 in reply to 171465.1
Date: 1/20/2011 4:26:35 AM
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Let's say that every division would have 96 draftees, and always at least one very hot prospect among them.


That would be the worst thing that could happen. I estimate that ~90% of the current draftees are "junk data" anyway, as they get dumped right after the draft or end up with the majority of the teams in this game - that are bots.

If you want better draftees, in my opinion we should cut the third round and improve the general quality (esp. player builds) of the rookies availiable. That would mean, no more 7 footer PGs, no 0-10% FT-shooting guys and so on...

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171465.6 in reply to 171465.5
Date: 1/20/2011 8:30:24 AM
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no more 7 footer PGs

I love 7 ft tall “point-guards”, you don't have to train them out of position.

"Air is beautiful, yet you cannot see it. It's soft, yet you cannot touch it. Air is a little like my brain." - Jean-Claude Van Damme
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171465.7 in reply to 171465.6
Date: 1/20/2011 8:50:51 PM
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I did a complete summary of my leagues draft.

Draft Round 1 and good 2 and 3
Keogh, Kerehi Belmore Aces 1 1 5k star best 18 year old wage
Yuntai, Ma West Coast Steel 2 1 19 4k star
Smythe, Michael The Victorian Allstars 3 1 19 4k 6th
Smith, Brad Geelong Blazers 4 1 4k star
Shuoda, Li Crush Lakers 5 2 2k bw
Sinovčić, Andro Downboys 6 2 4k as
Munyarryun, Teddy ANU Basketball 7 3 4k pas - bet they are glad they didnt get their first or second choice
Xiangyan, Peng Moosas Mad Men 8 1 19 6k as
Cook, Lino Chelsea Seagulls 9 2 5k as second best 18yo wage
Xianfan, Xiong SASTROOPERS 10 1 19 3k bw
Wellen, Ron Haggards 11 7 4k starter
Halliday, David Beechy 12 2 3k rp
Bond, Tom Vios Violationers 13 2 4k 6th
Pistacchi, Alessandro hopelessly addicted 14 2 19 2k 6th
McNutt, Dallas Stone Slashers 15 7 4k 6th
Crosbie, Zachery Whitebeard 16 7 4k 6th
Caine, Norman Belmore Aces 17 6 3k ss best potential in draft?
Egan, Gale West Coast Steel 34 7 19 2.5k mvp
Gould, Stacey SASTROOPERS 42 5 19 3k pas
Quigley, Timote Beechy 44 12 3k pas 5th last pick of the draft and prob one of the top 5

So in total in our draft there were five players who aren't garbage. Perhaps some may argue for two more.

Keogh, Kerehi pick 1 would be fine with one more potential.
In the first round the one really good prospect at pick 8 was Munyarryun, Teddy.
Then my guy Cook, Lino was the only other decent player taken in the first round and let me tell you, he is 6'3" with atrocious JS! I sold him for $100,000.
Pick 17 Belmore made up for their first pick by getting an 18 year old superstar but $3,232 is a low base. I have seen lots of guys like this with a TPE of like $4,000-$40,000.
Then in the third round we finally hit some potential, a pity they were on low skill 19 year olds. All also likely to be useless.
Funny the 5th last player taken was actually possibly one of the best while most people wont get excited by a $2915 perennial allstar in this draft he rocks. Sadly he was sold for $2,000 and then sacked.

So overall my rating for our league draft: pitiful!

I don't know what anyone else spent on the draft but I spent $280,000, got one of the top 3 guys in the entire draft and made a $180,000 loss.

Last edited by yodabig at 1/20/2011 8:53:17 PM

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171465.8 in reply to 171465.7
Date: 1/20/2011 8:59:33 PM
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You can't really expect to make money out of the draft, because every league has the same chances. You can only hope to get lucky with a NT prospect if you want to tank.. But the draft is not meant to make money. Don't invest in it unless you want to keep the player.

"Air is beautiful, yet you cannot see it. It's soft, yet you cannot touch it. Air is a little like my brain." - Jean-Claude Van Damme
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171465.9 in reply to 171465.8
Date: 1/20/2011 10:07:49 PM
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Ahhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh

I HATE HATE HATE these forums.

Just spent 30 mins on a huge detailed statistical analysis of the draft only to get "oops" you go back and get nothing. So pathetic.

I guess you win this discussion, I am not going to go through all of that again but I will share my conclusion...

In my league draft there were 0 x ATG, 0 x HoF, 1 x 19 year old $2,500 salary MVP, 2 superstars neither trainable, so the best potential guy was one p-all-star with less than $4,000 salary. There were in total 2 guys with > $5,000 salary, neither great. No-one won. The only winning strategy if you had first pick or last pick was to spend $0 on the draft.

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171465.10 in reply to 171465.9
Date: 1/20/2011 10:30:39 PM
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Yeah, you have to be careful with long messages ;)

I hear what you're saying, but my only conclusion is your league had a bad draft. It happens. You can chose to spend $ 0 next year, but who's to say there won't be a Blake Griffin in that one?
Some drafts are good, some aren't, just like in real life. You pay to find out.

"Air is beautiful, yet you cannot see it. It's soft, yet you cannot touch it. Air is a little like my brain." - Jean-Claude Van Damme
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171465.12 in reply to 171465.11
Date: 1/21/2011 4:24:13 PM
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You probably would have made a profit in the past but the economic deflation has really killed any sort of positives that come from investing heavily in the draft.
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It's sad but it's true.

It's just the end of a cycle. It made sense to invest because there was a demand for young trainees with potential. After a few seasons like this the demand is down and the price drop. It's not sad, you can still get a excellent piece for your team's future that is worth some investment in the draft, but you could argue the community as a whole speculated on the draft and it hit a peak and now it's not worth investing to sell draftees. That's the nature of the market in this game.
Increasing the quality of the draft will not solve this problem, it will only delay it before an even bigger market crash. You can blame speculators and day traders for this one.

"Air is beautiful, yet you cannot see it. It's soft, yet you cannot touch it. Air is a little like my brain." - Jean-Claude Van Damme
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171465.13 in reply to 171465.12
Date: 1/21/2011 11:54:36 PM
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Well I would be less sad but I train guards and the guys I have drafted in both of the last two seasons have both had atrocious JS. Atrocious!

Yes this is the other factor with the free agent tsunami. training players is almost not worthwile now. I saw a well trained 21 year old guard go for $400,000 the other day. Why spend 3 seasons training?

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