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Players that are ball hogs, tend to get more votes even know they are not the best. I think the voting should factor in rating. The points leader is always a starter and this player tends to have low GS and passing. Allstar week needs to be improved overall.

Yes indeed your guard should at least be an allstar, if not MVP. Your team has improved to an excellent record and he is the best player on your team. I would be mad if he doesn't beat out Amidani for Mvp. The only reason that Amidani may beat out Jarvis for Mvp is due to the fact that his team plays at such a drastically accelerated pace. Well, I hope that Jarvis gets Myp for you this season to make up for this sad mistake, indeed Amidani is great, but I still feel Jarvis is much more deserving of the starting spot.

I have to agree. There is a player in the Big 8, who is the Leading Scorer (20.8) and Rebounder (13.8), of the Big 8, along with playing for a playoff contender. Yet he did not even make a back-up roll. He lost out at his position, by a player that only played 1 game in our league, against the 7th place team in the Great 8. Really? That is messed up.

Hell the starting PG, for the Big 8, is under 3k salary. He got 4k more votes, then the player I mentioned. Did I mention his team is a bot team? That is a travesty.

In my opinion, if your team is not above .500, you would have to put up phenomenal numbers to get in. Especially if your team is 5 games or more under .500.

Sorry Dabulls
gotta disagree with you
your player is voted on at PG
His avg more than 10 assists per game
your around 3
what do you want in a PG?
And at SF I think that guy also beats yours
Salaries don't mean a damn thing in anything
other than would they SHOULD do...not what they've done overall

In defense of dabulls, the other pg is playing on a team that often plays a fast offense and even runs Full court defense for an even faster pace. Sure the other player is averaging more assists and steals, but if you take out the rapid pace the difference wouldn't be as great. In fact, if dabulls played at the same pace, then assists,TO and FT% would be the only stats that Amidani would have an advantage in. From experience Jarvis plays better defense and is clearly a better scoring option. Passing isn't the only thing a pg has to do, often they are needed to make clutch shots, carry a team and shut down an opposing player. In all of those cases Jarvis is better. Even his better rebounding can make a difference (rebounding for a pg is a rare commodity).

Jarvis is part of an offense where he is not only the best scoring option, but often times- the primary one in the patient offense which has been run. He fits into an offense where he scores more and passes less for the better of the team. In addition to that, he has the ball in his hands much more often and has more TO as a result (I admit better passing/handling could help this). While his lower passing is definitely a knock, it is not the only factor to define a G or PG for that matter. On top of that, Dabulls have done better as a team up to this point which should tip the scales in his favor. In fact, that should be one of the biggest factors in allstar and MVP voting.

I have 3 players on the all star and the one that's probably the best, Juan de Dios Varallo, didn't make it for only 2000 votes.

As any all star, there´s a debate and someone who isn't happy, but I don't care that much.

Besides, if rotate your players or switch the position, you'll hurt the hances for the all star but you'll be in better position for the PO. And that's important.

Bottom line: I don't care about improving the all star, it's oky the way it is and if you have any suggestion, the BBs will consider it.

Defense bonus and bonus for boring setplay? Is this really was allstar voting are about?

I didnt see ben wallace in the asd, i did see players like blake griffin domniate the vote while players like nowitzky are lucky that there is a coach choiche. I even see yao ming lected without even playing, and many houston players get vote because they play in a popular team (in china)

Thats asd guys with impressive stats and highlight reels get voted not necessary the best players.

Definitely, all star doesn't mean best players (vince carter, hey, we are talking about you) but the fans most like to see.-

But in that case, wouldn't the higher scoring player have an advantage in voting? The more important issue is that often times in this game, the MVP award follows in the footsteps of the allstar game. Last season Jarvis was snubbed for Amidani and guess who won MVP? The problem here is that the MVP vote seems to follow the trend of the allstar vote in the BB world, which puts additional weight in the matter.

Wouldn't it also make more sense that the player with all the crazy dunks and insane shots would be the one getting the allstar vote and not the team distributor? If it really is about all the highlights than the bigger scoring, better shooting player would get all the votes which is still not the case. This leaves the allstar situation in a state of purgatory as it does somehow hold weight in mvp vote (as the trend of allstars becoming mvps indicates), but at the same time, being true to the spirit of the allstar game would involve grabbing the better scoring, more reckless players, rather than all around players regard stats and performance.

Also, I didn't necessarily mention any bonus for 'boring set play' since most teams generally work best with only a few different offenses, I feel that the stats can be misleading without the play as a consideration. This was in regard to the comments that suggested that Jarvis was not as good as the Gs and SFs in his conference and not that the play should be a criteria for allstar selection. Though I do feel that for MVP and allstar consideration adjusted (per 100 possession) stats should be employed for voting as picking the player with more stats per possession would ensure that the allstar game would have better highlight reel scoring and that the mvp would not be lost due to buffed up stat stuffing due to the faster play of some teams.

at least for me, normally the Passing PG makes more highlight then the shooting PG - because jumpshot ain't normally highlight material and guards mostly score like that.

The PG i like to watch most is Jasekevicius(even when i probadly write his name wrong), who nearly every game makes one or two incredible passes, ok he also have a very nice Jumpshot but besides his scoring madness against the US team i don't remember them.

And i believe we already had MVP who didn't participate in ASD, personally the voting isn't really similiar. Even when there are MVP voters who value stats higher then others, i believe there was a election with grubbs from BB Charles who showed this disparity a lot.

Edit: this one:http://www.buzzerbeater.com/league/1/overview.aspx?season...

also check out this comment: (189413.1)

Last edited by CrazyEye at 9/13/2011 3:48:42 PM