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214729.3 in reply to 214729.2
Date: 4/19/2012 4:12:34 PM
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Is there a way that the team can be allowed to log-in, but have everything locked except forums and BB-mail? I think that would be helpful.

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214729.4 in reply to 214729.3
Date: 4/19/2012 4:28:19 PM
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it is not allowed to talk about cases, and i am pretty sure that will be the thread, And then the only functionality would be the IG mail, which could be replaced by real mails imho who exist.

The question is, if allowing lineup changes would be right, if the assumption of cheating is wrong it would reduce the damage done through it, but on the other hand it could lead to some good by ct's.

edit: and we had ban for spaming and insults already too ;) Maybe an additional notice, when you try to login will do the job.

Last edited by CrazyEye at 4/19/2012 4:32:50 PM

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214729.5 in reply to 214729.4
Date: 4/19/2012 4:32:05 PM
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Well maybe open a new forum, for appeals or clarifications. Like there is for NT coaches that only appears when that manager becomes a NT Coach. Once this player enters the 3 day Pre-Banning period he is allowed to only post in that forum that only GMs and BBs can see otherwise and it is there where he can discuss his defense.

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214729.7 in reply to 214729.6
Date: 4/19/2012 9:59:45 PM
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I was more talking about transfer/multiaccounting bans that could be a misunderstanding on the GM part. Not obvious forum bans.

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214729.10 in reply to 214729.1
Date: 4/20/2012 1:58:12 PM
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If we provide our evidence, we also provide what cheaters should be watching for next time, I think it's highly unlikely we are gonna provide that info. Besides all cheaters know what they've done wrong.

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214729.11 in reply to 214729.10
Date: 4/20/2012 5:31:28 PM
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I do understand your point, but I think there's a difference between evidence and your method of detection. Also I don't think everyone caught of cheating intends to cheat again or even know they were cheating the first time. Also there could be coincidences that could be misinterpreted as cheating.

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214729.13 in reply to 214729.11
Date: 4/21/2012 3:16:30 AM
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I do understand your point, but I think there's a difference between evidence and your method of detection.

Sure, and our process consists of much more than just detection of an irregularity. After detecting something weird or suspicious, we investigate, discuss where necessary, and arrive at a decision. This is not a random process. And it is important to keep in mind that breaking the rules does not automatically result in a ban. Banning is just one extreme of the scale.

Also I don't think everyone caught of cheating intends to cheat again or even know they were cheating the first time.

The "I didn't know" defense is typically not accepted in real life. It is not something we can accept here either. Everyone is supposed to read the rules, they are available in native language for almost all users. That is pretty much the best we can do to give everyone access to the rules. Even with the expectation that every user knows the rules, we always consider the severity of the case. If the crime is not that bad, if the user and their behaviour seems more ignorant than malevolent, a warning is typically issued. Here, the expectation is very much that once caught cheating, the user will understand it is better to continue playing nice.

Also there could be coincidences that could be misinterpreted as cheating.

Sure, anything can happen. It is however highly unlikely that such a case results in a ban. The process is not random. You would be surprised how much work goes into the investigation of some cases.

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