BuzzerBeater Forums

Welcome welcome. May you stay injury free except when you play HumanFund. Good idea on having an active league Sconnies. We have some really great managers here and their thoughts will be welcome to those of us still learning the nuances. Wish all of you great luck this season. I have a primer question for getting discussion rolling this year. How much do you look to the draft to help your team? I have not had much luck with it in the past so I've stopped investing so heavily in finding good players. It seems when I find one that has great potential he has low TSP or if I find one with high TSP its low potential or foul prone. Interested to hear your thoughts. I saw you got a HOF Sconnies. Well done!

So I have been trying something different with training where I put my trainees through 3 identical 3-year cycles (though I switched from training guards to training bigs and am trying to jump start those cycles), and at the end of each 3-year cycle one trainee graduates and is replaced by a new 18 year old. As part of that, I am scouting 2 points a week for 3 seasons (since 2 is just as efficient as 1 point) and then spending them all every 3 seasons. This nets me 84 scouting points to spend every 3 seasons which is enough that I am able to get the full skill sets of each player in the entire draft. After looking at the skill set of the entire draft, then it's just a matter of scouting potential for the players that have skills that match my needs. Normally I have enough left for scouting potential of about 5-10 players (3 points per player).

As is always the problem with the draft though, it's a crapshoot if there is anything available in the seasons that you are targeting the draft. For example in the last draft I tried this I drafted 7th, got my top pick who was an MVP and the player still only sold for $287,700 where I spent $420,000 spread out over 3 seasons on preparing for it.

There are alot of "sub-par" trainees that can be bought for dirt cheap and then sold for a good profit in 9 seasons. They will be solid player, but never NT players, but it's just a matter of what you are trying to accomplish with your training.

Last edited by Rufus Rugi at 9/11/2020 4:06:18 PM

I have 3-5 weeks of out of position trainings built into every season when training bigs (only 2 for my guard plan). It's definitely not optimizing the training for an individual player, but the goal was to avoid having to have seasons where I have to play a 18 or 19 year old 48 minutes every game.

I’m curious to her how your cycles system works out. Are you paying for youth trainer? It seems expensive to pay for a quality youth trainer all the time, but also a missed opportunity in training to invest time in a 18-19 year old without one.

I fear that my lack of patience will be the downfall of the plan, as I only made it 2 cycles in my outside program before switching to inside. I was paying for a youth trainer for the first 2 years of a cycle, but given the fact that it's only for 1 player, it doesn't quite seem worth it, I'd agree with you there.

I bought Dowling as a 18 year old for ~75k and he had 31/20 skill points. I only trained him till the end of his 23 year old season, but in those six seasons I got 40 guard skill pops (only 10 between HA and DV) and 12 big skill pops (which I realize is just mediocre). I would guess if I had trained him another 3 years he would end up around 81/35.

The goal is to have a constant stream of players with manageable salaries that let me still be competitive every season. While at the same time, since I'm buy players fairly cheap, I am still making a decent profit every 3 years when I sell a player that ages out from my team. It worked great in D III, but it's starting to look like the ceiling might be a competitive D II team. It definitely does not seem like it will be sustainable in D I.

Looks like I might be focusing solely on training soon. Get right back in this league only to have my bank account empty (I was going into bankruptcy without the promotion bonus) and most of my starters 30 and 31. I played the first three games against three top teams so I might be jumping the gun. But I kinda of enjoy the rebuilds where you don't have to worry about giving minutes to trainees and losing a close league game.

Yeah, even if you can keep an 18 yo limited to cup and scrimmage games, it’s hard to be competitive if you are starting a 19 or 20 yo in one slot every game. About 5 seasons back I sold house, pulled Worthington with the #1 pick, and only came back now that I am close to finishing his training. I am closing out training my 2 starting guards. They are 24, 25, and 25 respectively. It requires shuffling but never starting a player I know isn’t competitive. I have been thinking about what to do as they completely age out of training (things are pretty slow now) and the best I can imagine is 1 young player and a rotating crew of older players that I can fix or upgrade while training a draftee.

Eric, looks like you have already started selling players off. Good luck with the rebuild! Always one of my favorite parts of the game, endless possibilities!

Yeah, I'm in a similar but slightly earlier version of this same situation. Trainees are 23, 24, 24 needing single position training for another two seasons minimum. It's tough to get them all 48+ especially due to foulouts/injuries(had trouble with both already, trainee injured 3 minutes into yesterday's game, and another one has been getting into foul trouble). First 4 games of this in d2 were pretty promising though, I'm 1-3 but could easily be 2-2.

This league seems pretty damn close competitively. Gonna be real interesting to see who pulls off the chip