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From: LA-Shnob

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Date: 5/10/2021 2:02:12 AM
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There is at least one more thing to consider in your calculations:
trainer and his salary. Good trainer costs a lot, and his salary is generally high...

From: johnfox

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Date: 5/10/2021 2:09:15 AM
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it is impossibile you buy a 150k C and you sell him at the end of the season for 600k

if you buy him for 150k it means his potential is no huge and also skills are not so high....and for sure you won't sell a young C with low potential after only 1 season with 450k profit...

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Date: 5/10/2021 4:21:30 AM
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You are in a very weak league. Just don't take stupid decisions (like filling your locker room with lame centers) and you will be in div.1 in no time.

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Date: 5/10/2021 10:54:09 AM
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I totally understand where you're coming from, but I always trained for a profit, it didn't matter if I was training Guards, Forwards or Centers. Is it not possible to do the same today in BB? I just checked the TL and 18 year old centers with strong/proficient inside skills and decent potential atleast (Pereniall allstar or Superstar) are being sold for good money.

The plan would be this

Buy a player that meets the following requirements :

- 18 year old;
- 6'4 / 6'5 for imperial units, in normal units around 195cm more minimum;
- Potential Pereniall All Star minimum, preferably All Star or MVP to maximize profits:
- Superior Main Trainer minimum;
- Superior Youth Trainer minimum;
- Level 1 or 2 infraestructures cross training;
- Player with competent/respectable inside skills (Rebounding, Inside Shot, Inside Defense, Shot Blocking);

Taking in account that BB announced that from next season utopia is going to have a 2nd nationality for their drafted players, you will increase the pool of players available meeting those requirements.

So buying a player that meets those requirements between 200k and 400k would not be impossible, depending on potential and nation you could maximize your profit even more.

To guarantee total profit, for 2 seasons of training I think I could reach 1 mil profit on each player. Let's suppose this, and please correct me if I'm wrong but this is just my past experience, since the market doesn't seem have that much different prices compared to when I used to play.


From: senshi

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continuation from my previous reply..
(I know the taller the player the faster he trains inside skills, please don't murder me for stating 195cm as minimum requirement haha)

Start of first season (let's take the most realistic and cheap example possible) :

Potential: Superstar
Inside Shot: respectable Inside Defense: respectable
Rebounding: competent Shot Blocking: competent

End of first season prediction, with the following training:

4 weeks Inside Shot
4 weeks Inside Defense
3 weeks Shotblocking
3 weeks Rebounding

18 year old
Potential: Superstar
Inside Shot: prominent Inside Defense: prominent
Rebounding: proficient Shot Blocking: proficient

Second season prediction with the same training model

19 year old
Potential: Superstar

Inside Shot: sensational Inside Defense: sensational
Rebounding: prolific Shot Blocking: prolific

A 19 year old player with superstar potential with these skills could go on for I assume, around the 1Million mark right?
Take into account an MVP player and he could go for more, probably around the 1,5Million mark I assume

Correct me if I'm wrong please, this is my conclusion after analyising the market thoughtfully and the new BB paradigm regarding to training, with the addition of infraestructures

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Date: 5/10/2021 11:10:00 AM
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In your opinion what would be best to train from 18 year old, guards or centers? Or forwards? What's the most profitable training type of player?

I've just researched and it seems that there is not a lot of difference between lvl 6 and lvl 7 coaches, only the price.

I just got a 33k salary superior (lvl 6 coach) for 200k I think that's good for the profit he could generate, thing is I read on the forums that the difference between a lvl 6 and a lvl 7 coach is just 3% in training, in a full season of training that would be about 1-2 pops difference I guess? So is it worth it even to have a coach like that instead of superior (lvl 6)?

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Date: 5/10/2021 11:11:03 AM
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What would recommend as a starting team to maximize all the profits I can take? Cheers for the reply mate

From: senshi

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Date: 5/10/2021 11:12:25 AM
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I've seen that you made quite a profit in your BB history, if it's no secret what kind of players do you look for in training in order to get the most of the profit, be it 1 season after or 2 seasons after

From: johnfox

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Date: 5/10/2021 11:46:25 AM
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i don't trust in selling players after 1 or 2 season

i train players but at the moment training planning is scheduled for 4-5 season

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Date: 5/10/2021 12:07:26 PM
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I totally understand where you're coming from, but I always trained for a profit, it didn't matter if I was training Guards, Forwards or Centers. Is it not possible to do the same today in BB?

It is still possible today to a certain degree. But you are a new team. It's not the best way if you want to earn money fast. Like I said, I wouldn't touch on training until I'm financially stable. Invest all your money in things which can bring instant money in first while cutting unnecessary costs, then only invest in luxuries like training. You'd not only find it easier to earn money by dumping your money into your arena first, then you'd have more money to give you a headstart in training. Just remember, there is a finite number of seats that can earn you money in your arena (estimated 21k I think?), but an infinite number of trainees to train. So it makes more sense to max out your arena as soon as possible, then focus on training, rather than doing both side by side and achieving half baked results in your first two seasons.

Start of first season (let's take the most realistic and cheap example possible) :

Potential: Superstar
Inside Shot: respectable Inside Defense: respectable
Rebounding: competent Shot Blocking: competent

End of first season prediction, with the following training:

4 weeks Inside Shot
4 weeks Inside Defense
3 weeks Shotblocking
3 weeks Rebounding

18 year old
Potential: Superstar
Inside Shot: prominent Inside Defense: prominent
Rebounding: proficient Shot Blocking: proficient

I think you're getting a little over ambitious here. Did you use any programs such as CoachParrot to calculate that? Because at a first glance, that looks like something I get with my level 7 trainer, which would cost you 3-5m alone, unless you're paying him crazy salaries. I don't know what you mean by competent, but since you listed respectable in the other two skills, I'mma expect it to be average at least. I highly doubt you'd get 3 pops in SB with 3 weeks of SB training and 4 weeks of ID with a level 6 coach (I previously wrote level 5 because you said superior, but noticed you meant level 6, which is exceptional, not superior), unless you're very lucky with sublevels. My 19 year old player who is 224 cm tall (probably close to max height, can't exactly remember what the max height is) pops in SB once every 2 weeks with a level 7 coach tho, so it's not too unimaginable if you're using a level 7 coach. A level 7 coach might just be 3% better than a level 6 coach, but you might not even reach your target with a level 6 coach.

A 19 year old player with superstar potential with these skills could go on for I assume, around the 1Million mark right?
Take into account an MVP player and he could go for more, probably around the 1,5Million mark I assume

Correct me if I'm wrong please, this is my conclusion after analyising the market thoughtfully and the new BB paradigm regarding to training, with the addition of infraestructures

Are you sure that your market analysis is based on bid price, or listed price? Frankly speaking all I see on the TL are delusional people who list their players at a high price and no one bidding. Based on experience, I highly doubt such a player would go for 1 million.

I don't have any hard statistics to back me up, but a quick search right now reveals only 1 player (tho it's a guard) with at least 3 prominent skills and 1 proficient, and his bidding time just ended and no one bid for him when he was listed at 350k. Well, it's mid season, but frankly speaking I don't see it being much more expensive at the start of the season, especially when its a monoskilled C and the game engine being tweaked to make inside tactics less dominant. That said, you'd also probably get your 18 year old superstar for 100k or less, so it's not too bad.

Last edited by BuzzRBeater at 5/10/2021 12:22:23 PM

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Date: 5/10/2021 12:18:47 PM
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You make very good points. Let me just chime in

I've done quite a great profit selling players after 1 season with lvl 5 and lvl 6 coach, you can check my transfer history and take a look at Alaric Savary, 18 french players, who came in at 56 TSP and left out at 75 TSP, how much profit did I made in 1 season just with him? 1 Million!

Now I've been trying and experimenting a lot so I haven't been doing the same formula that enabled me to earn big bucks, but I can certainly say that probably training 6 players 1v1 for 1 season can net you more profit than training 3 centers.

Now back to your point, I don't believe at all that you need to spend 3-5 million in a trainer, only if you have a 18 year old that you want to train until he's NT level and that would be around 24-25 for most NT's, 26/27/28 year old for TOP NT's.

500k on a superior (lvl 5) trainer with 20k weekly salary is more than enough and will enable to you start training for a profit right away.

I can recommend buying 3 superstar / MVP / HOF+ potential as your main trainees and 3 perenial/superstar as your other trainees, give them a full season of training and you're netting about 200-300k minimum depending on their skills, age, potential, nation I can assure you that some players can net you atleast 500k+ profit in just one season.

I'm curious about centers too, I've thought about training them but I barely see anyone doing it, if someone could tell me if it's profitable and how much that would be great.

Also your guard search, what skills did he have prominent or proficient in? Because for a guard only OD and PASSING add him real value, Driving / Passing / Jumpshot barely add any value to his market value, in my experience

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