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323403.3 in reply to 323403.2
Date: 5/29/2024 11:31:56 PM
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Definitely need to raise more attentions and voices to be hear by the GM

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323403.4 in reply to 323403.1
Date: 5/30/2024 11:07:29 AM
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1. Indication of how Stamina is affecting players in-game. I should be able to know how tired my players are so I can act.
It is generally believed that stamina affects ratings.
In this old thread (116609.1), we can see that there is a way to study it, so I don't think it's necessary to add a new indicator to show how tired a player is.

2. Ability to dictate how frequently, or in-frequently, 1st/2nd/3rd choice players play.
> Pre-defined %: 65/25/10, 45/45/10, etc.
> Optional stamina modifier: Unless lower than X% stamina
Currently, the Substitution Pattern includes: Follow Depth Chart, Let Coach Decide, Coach Picks from Depth Chart, and Depth Chart until 4th.
I think this is good without complicated settings.
So I don't see why there is a need for change.

3. Ability to train stamina as % of weekly training.
> ~8% will eventually get all players to average
> ~20% will eventually get players to prominent
> With age related modifier, of course
It seems fundamentally similar to the current method.
Training once per season is equivalent to 7.14% of weekly training.
I don't see the necessity for changing it.

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323403.5 in reply to 323403.4
Date: 5/30/2024 2:13:30 PM
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2. Ability to dictate how frequently, or in-frequently, 1st/2nd/3rd choice players play.
> Pre-defined %: 65/25/10, 45/45/10, etc.
> Optional stamina modifier: Unless lower than X% stamina
Currently, the Substitution Pattern includes: Follow Depth Chart, Let Coach Decide, Coach Picks from Depth Chart, and Depth Chart until 4th.
I think this is good without complicated settings.
So I don't see why there is a need for change.

I understand that what our friend is requesting is to be able to change the distribution of minutes between the starters, substitutes and reserves.
It is currently set at approximately 36-10-2 minutes for each.

I would like to be able to change this distribution with a dial, for example:
Starters 28, Substitutes 18, reserves 1.
Being able to make your substitutes play more minutes than now.

Or in another case:
Starters 32, Substitutes 10, Reserves 6

This change would not entail much complexity but it would allow a player who fouled out in his training match to play at least 6 minutes in one position to complete his weekly training. Now he could only play about 10 as a substitute "stealing" minutes from another player or only 2 as a reserve, being insufficient to reach the optimal level.

In my opinion this would allow managers much more variety of tactical options.

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323403.6 in reply to 323403.5
Date: 5/31/2024 10:17:30 AM
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I oppose adding a training-specific substitution pattern just for training purposes because it feels very boring.
This game require us to observe the behavior patterns of the computer coach on the field and then find ways to master it to achieve our goals.

As far as I know, the distribution of minutes between the starters, backups and reserves varies depending on the game situation (such as whether it enters garbage time).
Also, using a substitution pattern such as Coach Picks from Depth Chart, if the starters are significantly weaker than the backups, the backups will have noticeably more playing time.
Besides, no one said, for example, that backups for different positions can't be the same player.
There are different arrangements to try, which might produce different results.




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323403.7 in reply to 323403.6
Date: 5/31/2024 1:35:54 PM
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I oppose adding a training-specific substitution pattern just for training purposes because it feels very boring.
This game require us to observe the behavior patterns of the computer coach on the field and then find ways to master it to achieve our goals.

As far as I know, the distribution of minutes between the starters, backups and reserves varies depending on the game situation (such as whether it enters garbage time).
Also, using a substitution pattern such as Coach Picks from Depth Chart, if the starters are significantly weaker than the backups, the backups will have noticeably more playing time.
Besides, no one said, for example, that backups for different positions can't be the same player.
There are different arrangements to try, which might produce different results.


Please explain to me how I can make one of my players play approximately 28 minutes with the current game configuration.

I still haven't managed to do it, except once when I injured a prop.

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323403.8 in reply to 323403.7
Date: 6/1/2024 1:15:28 AM
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If the score leads significantly, using Follow Depth Chart, the starters' playing time is about 28 minutes, give or take a few minutes.
This game (129647754) is an example, the starters of my PF and C positions play 28 minutes and backups play 20 minutes.

If the score is very close or even slightly behind the opponent, then Follow Depth Chart is indeed not effective.
However, if the backup players are significantly stronger than the starters, using Coach Picks from Depth Chart might work.
For example, in this (old) game (37151492), my PG starter plays 29 minutes, and the backup plays 19 minutes.

If there is no restriction on a single position playing for 28 minutes, and the backups are close in strength to the starters, it is possible to achieve this by using Coach Picks from Depth Chart or Let Coach Decide.
In this B3 game (129757425), TWT's Z. Bevalds plays 25 minutes, and according to BBAPI, he plays 8 minutes at PG, 8 minutes at SG, and 10 minutes at SF.
I guess TWT probably set Z. Bevalds as the backup for the PG, SG, and SF positions.

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323403.13 in reply to 323403.10
Date: 6/10/2024 10:59:27 AM
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I disagree that this is good or sufficient. The total minutes played by my listed starter will depend on his stamina level, skills related to the backup, and score of the game. In other words, 3 things out of my control in that specific moment. If I want to have roughly 50% split between my starter and sub then the only option is to blow out my opponent. Which depends on the skill level of my opponent and available players.
OK

In basketball games, when the scores are close, the playing time for the starters is usually longer because the coach wants the most experienced and skilled players on the court to help secure the victory for the team.
Generally, the playing time for starters ranges from about 30 to 40 minutes in a 48-minute game.
It is rare for the playing time of starters and bench players to be nearly equal.

If you say this is a special strategy aimed at preserving players' stamina for more important games, then I can accept it.

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