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37650.3 in reply to 37650.2
Date: 7/5/2008 12:35:02 PM
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But there are also good shot blockers who got less Block, but affects that a lot of shot missed the target - for example Andrej Kirilenko who got good blocking stats even at the beginning of the carrer but often jumps to early so that it was easily to trick him out with a shot fake. Better defenders wait longer, but often don't get high enough to block but make the shot hard.

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37650.4 in reply to 37650.3
Date: 7/5/2008 12:42:57 PM
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i saw some instances also wherein player A misses shot when my player defends him...

but that would categorize in his good ID taking effect. not blocking IMO

(con't from my post earlier) ...or maybe have a higher blocking stat, then lower his rebounding a bit. it's seldom to block a shot then grab it for a rebound (IMO, it's not considered a rebound at all when you block, but block itself)

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37650.5 in reply to 37650.2
Date: 7/5/2008 5:13:56 PM
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i have a player who have proficient inside defense and strong shot blocking... good enough to be a consistent shot blocker (i thought that he should have at least 1.2 blocks per game)

yet he averaged 0.9 blocks per game. which is i think it's too low for a player with those types of skills...


Shot blocking always depends of the opponent player/team and his/their skills (jumpshot, range, insideshot), so if you look at your outside- and insidedefense ratings against your opponent you can see why you do not make so much block shots (in the moment)!

Apart from that, the most block shots which I saw in BB were block shots aginst players which try to shoot from the outside like 3P or far FG, so maybe you should train some range and outside defense!?

I dont know your player skills but thats my experience...

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37650.6 in reply to 37650.5
Date: 7/5/2008 7:38:21 PM
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Shot blocking always depends of the opponent player/team and his/their skills (jumpshot, range, insideshot), so if you look at your outside- and insidedefense ratings against your opponent you can see why you do not make so much block shots (in the moment)!


in team ratings, you cannot argue with that.

the point i'm saying is that in real basketball, there can be instances wherein you wouldn't defend on your main man. in BB, you could do it 48 minutes per game.

either my player just backs off slightly or gets close, you never see that driving SF getting away to his defender and ending up being blocked by my center.

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37650.7 in reply to 37650.6
Date: 7/6/2008 1:36:08 AM
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in team ratings, you cannot argue with that.


I can because I can see in your team ratings that the outside defense is not so high that your player can do 5 shot blocks per game!

Look at your player H.Nellas, he do his most shot blocks in a game with an high outside defense, of course it also depends how much higher is the defense against the opponent offense...

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37650.8 in reply to 37650.7
Date: 7/6/2008 2:34:11 PM
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Maybe Nellas is the exception that makes the rule. Most shot blocking occurs in the paint.

Steve
Bruins

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37650.9 in reply to 37650.8
Date: 7/6/2008 6:39:14 PM
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Maybe Nellas is the exception that makes the rule. Most shot blocking occurs in the paint.

Steve
Bruins


I think shot blocking occurs insight and outside but mostly if there is a clear advantage... but its only my personal experience, so who knows.

FYI: my best block shot guy is only 1,88 m

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37650.10 in reply to 37650.9
Date: 7/6/2008 6:58:03 PM
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Maybe Nellas is the exception that makes the rule. Most shot blocking occurs in the paint.

Steve
Bruins


I think shot blocking occurs insight and outside but mostly if there is a clear advantage... but its only my personal experience, so who knows.

FYI: my best block shot guy is only 1,88 m


Yes, I know it does in the simulation. I meant in real basketball, shot blocking is normally more common in the paint.


Steve

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37650.11 in reply to 37650.10
Date: 7/7/2008 12:26:11 AM
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hey steve,

lets not also look pass that in the nba, a lot of shot blocking comes from help defense. there are only a number of players who have that ability to block shots face to face, mourning, motumbo, ostertag ( yes he can ) etc.

did you think david robinson blocks came from facing the guy. i read it before at some analysis at him since he cant lead his team to win a championship then. if i remember is right was it 60 to 70 % of his blocks comes from help defense.

also another is if your only guy in their that can block shots but you got really good inside D youll probably get more blocks.

:D

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37650.12 in reply to 37650.11
Date: 7/7/2008 7:11:27 AM
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I suddenly came into thinking that maybe good shot blockers must be old... Ü

Nellas is 34...Ü

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37650.13 in reply to 37650.11
Date: 7/7/2008 10:17:21 AM
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hey steve,
lets not also look pass that in the nba, a lot of shot blocking comes from help defense. there are only a number of players who have that ability to block shots face to face, mourning, motumbo, ostertag ( yes he can ) etc.


Totally agree here -- in the NBA and elsewhere, a lot of shot blocking is occurring when the offensive player beats his man and drives towards the basket only to find golith still there to beat. Still generally in the paint though.

I'm guessing that maybe where the BB simulation differs from RL. Not sure how there model works, but I'm guessing it has an offensive player selected and based on that and the defensive scheme, a defensive player is selected. So if the defensive player isn't the shot blocker, then there is really no chance of a blocked shot. That's conjecture on my part though.


Steve