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58173.3 in reply to 58173.2
Date: 11/17/2008 5:08:12 PM
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This is not a real world. Free throw shooting is easy to improve. It is about your preferences what you consider better for training this or that week. If you are feeling such a pain there is an easy solution (especially if you are usually winning team until 4th quarter).

Any sudden change would harm teams which sacrifice some weeks for FT training. (Like me I admit.) Plus it brings another dilema to the game which is a good thing. When there is an option to train FTs i t has to have some impact otherwise it would be dumb to use it.

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58173.4 in reply to 58173.2
Date: 11/17/2008 5:20:49 PM
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in ral world this player get some FT training, so you are playing unrealistic ;)

To get him above those 30% is pretty easy, so i don't see your point.

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58173.5 in reply to 58173.2
Date: 11/17/2008 5:52:53 PM
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I had the same issue as you in my first season, and after looking at my team I decided I could win more games by boosting up my FT %. So I trained it and my team went up pretty quickly. In the end a good FT % can be the difference in a tight match. A few weeks training for all your team is almost a given each season.
Train FT for a few weeks and win a few more tight matches.

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58173.6 in reply to 58173.3
Date: 11/18/2008 5:12:21 AM
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I think that you've mistunderstood.

He believed that the lowest level of FT scoring should equal ~30-40 %, if trained - could be higher.

Especially players with good scoring level should not score 0 per 48 free throws.

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58173.7 in reply to 58173.6
Date: 11/18/2008 7:40:32 AM
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I think you should think twice. I got his points and I wrote why it shouldn't be like he wants. Scoring is completely different thing and although not really realistic it is right that it is.

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58173.8 in reply to 58173.1
Date: 11/18/2008 8:08:36 AM
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I believe free throw efficiency should start from at least 30% for atrocious level.

so what do you suggest for awfull, inept, respectable,.... legendary then???

I think FT is already prety high in succesratings. With strong you will already get about 80 to 90% on FTs. There is no point in training them beyond level 10 now. I think it should be turned down so that strong players (medium level) also shoots an average of about 50%. This way there is still diffrence between a level 10 and a level 16, which now, unfortunatly, is no different.

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58173.9 in reply to 58173.7
Date: 11/19/2008 2:03:51 AM
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so in your opinion scoring 0 on 48 attempse FT is ok?

Even with smallest luck level there should be at least 20-30 % in my opinion

I know it is not real world but rest statistics are quite similar to real, like 2p efficency - 40-50 %, or 3p - 20-30%

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58173.10 in reply to 58173.9
Date: 11/19/2008 7:24:19 AM
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so in your opinion scoring 0 on 48 attempse FT is ok?

Even with smallest luck level there should be at least 20-30 % in my opinion

I know it is not real world but rest statistics are quite similar to real, like 2p efficency - 40-50 %, or 3p - 20-30%

When a player has no skill in shooting free throws -- yes, it's quite ok. You're welcome to train free throws to rectify the situation.

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58173.11 in reply to 58173.10
Date: 11/19/2008 7:41:03 AM
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so in your opinion scoring 0 on 48 attempse FT is ok?

When a player has no skill in shooting free throws -- yes, it's quite ok. You're welcome to train free throws to rectify the situation.


Really? You really honestly believe that?

If there's a game mechanic reason for having players shoot zero percent on FTs (as an incentive to make sure FTs are trained), then I'd buy that. Otherwise, it's a glaring weakness in the simulation of a basketball game. I'm with many of the others in this thread... a floor of 30% probability is reasonable, 0% is ridiculous.


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58173.12 in reply to 58173.11
Date: 11/19/2008 8:02:51 AM
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I think it is well balanced. If everyone would be able to shoot them the training would be osbsolete. If your players are that bad you fell the pain but you can work it out. On the other hand I think there shouldn't be bigger difference between wondrous and better FT and jusr proficient one. First, you train whole team and players are usually at very different levels in FT - so it is up to you whether you want to train your worst again and again when others are getting almost no benefit because their level is more than ok already. And most importantly if the difference (between 10+ levels and others) would be harsher it would lead into really odd end of game unless game engine would change. It would be much easier to get into lost matches by fouling and becaue leading team would not do that on purpose it would be a strong disadvantage. It could lead to absurd situatuions when how many players losing team has to foul out would be crucial for the result of the game. Or how many players both teams have to fouled out if the recently stil leading gteam would ract the same way.

I think it is good as it is. I wasn't content at first than I realized it has to be like that. As long as FTs are that easy to improve there is no need to adjust anything.

If you want reality go on the court and play. This is a strategy based on basketball not a pure simulation.

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58173.13 in reply to 58173.12
Date: 11/19/2008 8:24:09 AM
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If you want reality go on the court and play. This is a strategy based on basketball not a pure simulation.


I recognize that. All things being equal, though, the attraction of BB is that it looks a lot like real basketball. 0% FT shooters don't look like real basketball. Where we differ is on whether having 0% FT shooters achieves a strategic goal of the game... I don't think it does.

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