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Date: 6/19/2009 10:48:09 AM
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Date: 6/19/2009 1:26:47 PM
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It's possible that training defense will help, but players also have a hidden physicality trait that causes some to be more foul-prone than others.

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Date: 6/22/2009 4:36:15 PM
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is there anything i could train or do that will limit my fouls? i notice my team picks up a lot of fouls even vs computer teams. any help would be appreciated, thx.


this rouns mainly through the hodden attribut, so you could watch on the foul statistic.

Some people believe that good defence skills and stamina avoid fouls, but i believe that just help if you train one special player so that the most shot are taken against your other ones. Because you see also many fouls on NT from old good Nations against young/small nations with weaker players.


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Date: 6/22/2009 7:57:44 PM
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I've heard a higher shot blocking stat will reduce shooting fouls by your player, but cannot confirm that for certain.

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Date: 6/23/2009 5:33:50 AM
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In my experience nothing helps if its physical player the average of fouls don't change even with higher OD (in my case).

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Date: 6/23/2009 9:17:12 AM
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Defense helps a lot . But a hidden thing will allways sometimes arise.

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Date: 6/23/2009 10:59:30 AM
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Defense helps a lot . But a hidden thing will allways sometimes arise.



I am pretty sure that it doesn't help a lot. Let's take alook at the Nt matches which finish with more then 30 points difference yesterday, i think this are good example because the winning team has normally overpovering competition:

(6281) - 17 Foul france are mainly average, 12 Fouls good especially if weak defending is a factor

(6253) - normal values for both teams

(6225) - low values for both teams, again more fouls from the team with way higher D, and superior offensiv skills

(6226) - a lot fouls from superior team, averlage till below average from the weak one

(6197) - average both

(6172) - the same

(6169) - high amount of fouls for the superior team

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Date: 6/23/2009 11:34:22 AM
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Those are interesting examples but I'm not sure they prove anything. We don't know the physicality of the players used in this game, for example. Also, fouls tend to happen more on inside play than anything else. So if a team is taking more inside shots, they'll tend to draw more fouls.

How about my NT player as an example? (2931215) He has averaged, over the course of his career, 1.5 PFs. Whenever he plays for the NT he always seems to take at least 4 PFs, though.

Here are what I consider possible contributors to fouls. Feel free to discuss:

-hidden physicality skill
-home court
-type of offense (inside play draws more fouls)
-inside d
-outside d (to a much lesser extent, I think)
-driving
-quality of the shot
-attitude (I'm not sure about this one, but have seen weird things happen in a TIE vs CT)

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Date: 6/23/2009 11:56:06 AM
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In NT i have seen this phenomean pretty often, i have starting to watch for it after seeing a "walk over" match of our NT where 8 players got fouled out. And i assume that this games was calculated like a match against lucky fans. In the end it wasn't that bad on real, but i tend to say that quality has no effect or that poor shooter gets more fouls against good defenders then the opposite way.




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Date: 6/23/2009 12:08:23 PM
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poor shooter gets more fouls against good defenders



I have noticed recently that you hardly ever see a foul when a player makes a shot. I am wondering if that has something to do with your observation.

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Date: 6/23/2009 1:48:12 PM
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could be ;)

In this case the defense should work, it isn't dramatic the increase but maybe like in the sample above their the good teams fouls more often then the weak one, but in average not more then 3 fouls(which is less in comparision to the additional missed shots

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