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I've trained the USA U21's #1 Guard and my focus has been mostly on One-on-One with Pressure, Passing and Outside shooting worked in as well. I find the value of the Driving to be quite high, as well as the number of JS pops that come from One-on-One training. As for training Jump Shot, I've found it to be much less beneficial for my team to train it than the One-on-One. As a result, his skills have become pretty impressive and well-rounded. I've rarely trained jump shot, and yet his JS is already prodigious and he's still 21 with some more pops yet to come. The bonus of the One-on-One training is that it allows you to get 6 men to improve every week. It's rare that I don't get a pop in one of the skills

Last week's One-on-One training result: (I've been told to hide his full stats...)
Jump Shot: prodigious ↑
Driving: marvelous ↑

I picked up this guy (6'1", Hall-of-Fame potential, 18 years old at draft day) with the 16th pick in my draft, and I've built him up to that level in just 3 seasons. I figure he has 2 more seasons of development before he's peaked, so if that's the case, he'll be wondrous all around with legendary shooting.

I actually find the least effective of all the guard training to be Handling, it really serves no purpose because you can get the pretty much the same pops with One-on-One. Outside shooting, passing and pressure are also less effective because they focus pretty much on a single skill, but they are important, so I try to sandwich them with One-on-One weeks. The other benefit of One-on-One is the fact that you can train a forward or two without throwing games, which is what you'd do if you tried to train a forward to improve his range, outside D or passing.

Last edited by 420Monta at 1/4/2010 10:32:23 PM

I think you just made my point perfectly. First of all a bit of a disclaimer: your guy is a HFer, so that changes your options a bit. But more importantly your guy is going to end up with twice the salary and less OD than my guy. I don't think I would want a point guard that expansive, but for NT I am sure he would work out just fine. It's about prioritizing for me. And I don't plan on doing much handling training, ether. Just a bit at the end if I feel it's necessary. This is exactly what I meant when I sad that NT players require a different training philosophy than if you are building a player that will best suit your team. NT teams don't have budgets.

And since my goal was to make Bronson the #1 guard in America, that's going to work out just fine for me. I have built up a lot of secondary players and have drafted exceptionally well (SOME of my draftees: Two 6'2" guards with decent skills and potential this year, a 6'1" 18 year old MVP last year, a 6'8" MVP with enough forward skills to train as a guard to create a good SF and Jeffrey Fournier, who is currently on the market with a bid over 1 500 000.) over the years, so I can still afford Bronson's talent on my roster. And when the day comes that he is too expensive for me, I will put him on the market and get 2 star post men in return.

Yeah, I saw that guy on the TL. He has only strong OD, though so some one will have to train it :). I am curios just how much time you invested in him. The reason I ask is because I recently sold a much worse G for similar amount and replaced him with a guard comparable to yours, but a year younger for just 100k more. My point is you can play the market to make money. In fact the guy I sold I had bought for half of what he sold for and only gave him minimum training during the time I had him. I think I popped him twice in JS and thats all. But if I am going to invest a significant amount of time and effort to train some one I would get attached to them and want to keep that player for myself.

A final note: don't trust NT trainers for understanding the game, they are usually good at communications (which won them the election) rather than knowing more about the game mechanics than everybody else. I'm one of them. :-)

Yeah your work about the salary or the game ratings, are a sure sign that you didn't know more of the mechanics then others and are just good with words :)

wth? training speed slows down with equal speed for all skills? if you just full on train only 1skill then it will slow down rather than training evenly. training evenly in all skills cept the less useful ones: shotblock etc. is actually good as you dont get bulk down with monstrous salary and gives you more flexibility plus better sales value.

Where exactly are you going with this, and have you read this post carefully or just skimmed through. I never sad anything of sorts. I did say that I don't believe that I ever heard of the age related slowdown effecting different skills differently, but as far as I know that happens to be the truth. And while we are on the subject there are situations when the slowdown related to a runaway skill just can't be avoided and you just have to live with it. I am not about to stop training OD for example just because the other skills are lagging. Sometimes you can avoid it by rotating your training, but sometimes it is what it is and you just have to deal with it.

And while we are on the subject there are situations when the slowdown related to a runaway skill just can't be avoided and you just have to live with it. I am not about to stop training OD for example just because the other skills are lagging.

You'll probably end up with sub-optimal training for it - it really does slow down when you get out of balance.

Just by how much would you say it slows down? I plan on tacking OD to about 17-18 while the HN and DR will stay at around 12-13. Will I have significant problems doing that? I do plan on doing quite a bit of one position training were OD is concerned.

Just by how much would you say it slows down? I plan on tacking OD to about 17-18 while the HN and DR will stay at around 12-13. Will I have significant problems doing that? I do plan on doing quite a bit of one position training were OD is concerned.

I believe it would slow down enough to make the last couple pops a real drag.