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I fully agree with you, but it isn't what X-steppers was talking about. He wanted thresholds to make the team, which in my view is counterproductive

That wasn't the entirety of my discussion but it was the part you disagreed with most vehemently.

In my opinion, there is nothing wrong with setting a sort of minimum standards for starting position at skills but we've been over that 100 times both publically and privately so I don't wish to rehash it again.

Where I think this dovetails into the current discussion is that I think you guys are right in that there are going to be various types of managers playing this game.

a) those who log in and never come back
b) those who log in and don't want to be bothered to learn the game or be told what to do
c) those who log in, love the game, do a great job of improving their team and couldn't careless about the nt/u20
d) those who love the NT scene but aren't into the rest of the game (farms, if you will)
e) those who love the NT scene and their teams and want to do everything to balance both
f) Those who log in, are just starting to figure out the the game but need guidance on where to go


For the purposes of the NT/u20 you never have to do any reaching out to the managers in D and E because they will reach out to you. Once you identify the folks in C & B, you can pretty much leave them alone. There's always going to be category A but you'll never know which of the new teams are A's or A's waiting to become E's.

It is category F that holds the most potential for the NT/u20 team. The more of those managers you can identify and assist the stronger your depth will be. Personal contact is 1 great tool to help these people. The offsite forum is another good tool. Another tool that can and should be used is the public forum. As an example the NT discussion thread after we failed to advance was a beautiful read for anyone who cared to learn about the NT team and the strategy used. Sure it had the advantage of monday morning Quarterbacking but it still had a lot of very good information in it. In my opinion, that kind of public discussion will only spur interest amongst those in category F who find the threads. What better way to help them find that information than to put it out here in the form of a sticky? Or as a suggestion from some of the personal contact "scouts?"

EDIT: left out a word, if you can believe it. ;-)

Last edited by Xarn at 3/25/2010 11:06:37 AM

I'll debate you anyhow. Some questions for YOU!

What are your thoughts on the passing skill in general? How would you involve the community without compromising our tactics and team stats? If you can read French, what is the ODP they keep talking about in their debate thread?

Apparently the candidate cut down AND registration deadlines are the same...

Perhaps it would serve all users to make that point clear. Or I would suggest to separate the two so candidates have the chance to develop AND state their positions, and users to know all candidates.

If you knew you wanted to run, why the hell would you not register the moment you first could?

Yes it was a little over the top but by posting on the forum instead of trying to handle the matter behind closed doors you opened yourself up to public comments and speculation.

Jelme: I would like to hear your opinion on the passing skill and how important it is for both guards and big men.

Also the U21 has been called an arms race meaning the big skills JS OD for guards, IS, ID for big men have the most value put on them, whats your view on this and how much value do you put on the secondaries in a game thats become better rounded instead of a monoskilled battle.

Lastly, for guards which secondary to you feel is more beneficial Handling or Driving for both the PG/SG. Some managers have rated Driving as a useless added salary while others value its benefit. On the flip side we have heard from Josef Ka that handling is also used on the defensive side in part of the calculation of steals. What is your take?