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Buenas mel ,

Lo primero , Zuya no salio de titular , salio Courel que se lesiono si mal no recuerdo a los 3 minutos , Zuya era el alero suplente en este partido .

Lo de Estoa , es un grandisimo jugador y nos gusta mucho pero no pueden jugar todos y en nuestro staff le damos mucha importancia a las formas , no quiero decir con esto que Estoa las tenga malas ,sino que cuando por ejemplo estuvo en excelente y nos convenia con la tactica jugó de titular ( caso del partido contra Austria o el de Luxemburgo) o contra Rep. Checa ( en fuerte eliminado a los 22 minutos ) , contra Serbia también estaba en excelente forma y fue el AP suplente ( Villa tambien estaba en excelente ) y ha estado entre los 12 convocados casi siempre .

un saludo

Last edited by sozap86 at 9/8/2010 2:10:35 PM

Totalmente de acuerdo con Litur, y también le agradecemos sus palabras. Has descrito perfectamente el escenario actual. Por supuesto que iremos a por todas, como campeones actuales que somos.

Un saludo

Estoy de acuerdo, es más, yo sigo pensando que era un partido que culaquier entrenador hubiera jugado relajado. Junto con los percances que ya han comentado (la lesión de Courel y que parecían que jugaban solos) creo que ha sido una derrota dentro de lo que cabe positiva, por pocos puntos y acumulando entusiasmo; lo que nos obliga ahora a ganar los siguientes partidos... y lo vamos a hacer.

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PD: posiblemente la posición de AP sea la menos definida en esta selección (te lo digo como su scout de AP) pero siempre tenemos en cuenta el que consideramos mejor en relación a sus formas y características. Como te ha dicho antes pelagius, los utilizamos con criterio y no tenemos titular indiscutible en ningún partido.

¡¡vamos a por Suiza!!

Un saludo

Last edited by pedromartosjunior at 9/11/2010 6:56:54 AM

A open letter to the spanish BB-managers who follow their NT intensively

General
Since the match between our two countries I have been accused by your coach recasco several times that my country played ‘unfair’, and that we were against Spain. Therefore it seemed to me that this was probably the general consensus in the Spanish NT-community. Therefore I’d like to write this open letter, to explain my thoughts as a NT Coach and defend myself to these accusations.

First of all a NT Coach is appointed by voters in his or her country, and gets the job to do as well in this job as is possible, I’m sure recasco tries as hard as he can, just like Marot did. I did and will do that as well. This means that a NT-Coach doesn’t has as a goal to diminish chances of another NT , but has as a goal to do as well as possible.

The reasoning behind my decisions
The country I’m from has about 400 managers, we qualified for the second group phase of the European Championship and were able to beat Latvija, and were left with 4 strong teams to face, to be correct the numbers 1 (Espana), 3 (France) and 4 (Deutschland) of Europe and the home country Schweiz. Arrived at that point I thought that my country ‘s only chance to get another win was to play at CT against one of those teams, and the goal of one win in this group was reached. At that point I thought about playing a CT against Germany, but realized our chances would still be very slim. After all 2 years ago, only one opponent played a TIE against us. But suddenly I found a BB-Mail in my mailbox from recasco, proposing a mutual TIE. At first I thought this was extremely weird, why would the ‘almighty’ Spain propose a TIE to such a small country? According to me the only reason could be that he saw a chance for my country, it probably meant that your teamspirit wasn’t that good as I expected. After doing a quick scan I found out that the team spirit of Spain was the lowest of all following opponents. Also the form of the spanish inside players wasn’t perfect. I decided to accept the proposal from recasco, just because I was convinced that with my country had a small chance of winning another game, if I could find the right tactics combined with a CT. The chance would at least be better than at the other games, because my countries star PG was at a team which owner didn’t login anymore and the probability of having him in a good form was slim. In the end my country proved to be that lucky, because we found the right tactics and were able to profit from the TIE-deal. With this I managed to win one more game for my country than my fellow countryman and I expected. Your NT manager gave me the chance to do where I was appointed for, if this includes breaking a TIE-deal, than so be it. But this has nothing to do with being against Spain, I’m definitely not, I wish everyone the best, except when playing against my country.

Fairness of TIE-deals
Recasco said repeatedly that it was unfair to break a TIE-deal, and even claimed in the BB-mail of today: “I hope you learn that it is more important to be honest than qualify one position more or less.” C’mon all of you should know that a big part of this community thinks TIE deals is some sort of cheating, and that proposing and accepting a TIE deal, means taking risks. The risk of breaking a TIE-deal is the smallest when a TIE serves both teams. The TIE-deal proposed to my country served nothing for my country if I’d kept it, then we would have lost for sure (and of course recasco knows) and would have played a opponent with a higher teamspirit and in better form which probably wouldn’t even play a TIE. Your NT-Coach has taken a risk but he cannot rightfully blame me, it is his responsibility to do as best as he can with your country’s National Team, and his job is not to set ‘honesty’ above one place higher on the list. That is n

Last edited by Arsjitekt at 9/27/2010 4:40:35 PM

Totally agree with you, I think the whole blame was overconfidence in our NT-Spain (Resacoso).
You played your cards, and had to play them, he thought from the view of a small selection like yours, only with the mind in order to qualify for the tournament in preparation for the world championship and we gave him way too easy, offering equal TIE .

You, nothing else in my opinion was a mistake in his letters, and is not played all his enthusiasm or Germany or Switzerland, and with both teams.

Regards (Ros1306 / Coach SPAIN U21)

Last edited by ros1306 at 9/27/2010 4:50:23 PM

Respuesta a mi colega de Holanda:

Lo voy a hacer en castellano por deferencia a la comunidad española, que es la que mayoritariamente lee el foro español, y no tiene por qué saber inglés.

Lo que te dije el día del partido y te he repetido hoy es que para mí es más importante ser honesto, que ganar un partido en un juego como BuzzerBeater. Sólo hablo de moralidad porque las reglas de BB permiten no respetar pactos. Y quizás sea moralmente reprobable intentar pactar, no digo que no. Pero para mí, decir "a" y hacer "b" es lo menos honesto de todo. Cada uno tiene los valores morales que tiene, y los puntos de vista son tantos como individuos, pero yo nunca aceptaría un pacto para hacer justamente lo contrario. Y creo que como yo, mucha otra gente. Nunca he dicho, ni creo que se pueda interpretar, que lo que te dije era un consenso general de la comunidad española. Te lo dije a título personal como actual seleccionador.

Y la segunda cosa que te comenté, así a rasgos generales, es que esta actuación por tu parte, lo que iba a provocar era dejarte sin opciones y fastidiar las nuestras. Creo que no me he equivocado ¿verdad?

Lo de que no se debe proponer un pacto cuando sólo uno gana y todo eso, no son ni más ni menos que las justificaciones del que incumple. Insisto, legítimas cuando BB las permite, pero reprobables desde mi punto de vista.

Un saludo de recasco, perdón, resacoso.