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166665.30 in reply to 166665.28
Date: 12/21/2010 4:45:23 AM
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with all the other aspects brought up, I consider this change the biggest dismprovment possible.

There could have been dozens of other easy ways to fix the fifth place issue without worsening the other teams situation or even changing the whole game. Especially the point Kukoc brought up (stockpiling cheap players in the playoffs) is so bad...


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166665.31 in reply to 166665.22
Date: 12/21/2010 5:00:32 AM
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Paying salaries isn't a question of winning or losing, paying salaries is a question of playing or not playing a competitive game. Since we have the playoff transfer deadline in place, you'll have to pay at least one week of salaries if you're in the playoffs.

So I don't really see where your strategy fits in. If you managed to sell your roster before mondays' update in the current system after losing tuesdays playoffs match you would have achieved the same. It seems to me only in the rare occasion you buy a monster team, pay their salaries at monday, win tuesdays game, accidently lose saturdays game - not relegation but only in conference finals -, you will save one week of salary in the new system. I'm not sure that would be such a massive disadvantage compared to the old system.

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166665.32 in reply to 166665.31
Date: 12/21/2010 5:10:23 AM
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haha i am currently using this situation:] bidding for few players who has combined salary of 85k:D i go to ~-100k per week if i pay them but if i pay i win and i go to div 4 then i can handle that salary, but if i lose i dont pay salary i dont go to div 4 and i can sell them during those 2weeks:D thats is unfair for teams who had no spare cash. if u seed 1 and u have 50k starting lineup and no spare cash u meet seed 4 in playoffs who has shitty team with 15k starting salary but since he saves money for 3 seasons he buy like 200k starting lineup and blows out u and goes to the higher league, thats not fair.

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166665.33 in reply to 166665.31
Date: 12/21/2010 5:16:32 AM
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I think one thing people aren't considering is with all the extra cash from not paying salaries, the bids on the off-season TL will rise to a certain extent. This may reduce the off-season deflation of player values we seem to always experience. So the benefits of the proposed day trading scenario may not be as great as they would be at first glance.

My only gripe is the current system rewarded solid financial planning for the off-season. Now that big part of the strategic side of the game is gone.

I see good and bad with these changes.

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166665.36 in reply to 166665.35
Date: 12/21/2010 6:58:59 AM
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This change is the worst for common champions/finalist. Because they won't cut any costs and in addition they lost money from TV contracts. All teams lost these money, but they cut wage costs so finally their economy should be healthier, but the one of finalist probably won't be.
So fight for title is only for glory and B3 spot?
I hope there will be 50k bonus for each win in group play of B3, so that there is some potential bonus for winning the title. Or some bonus could be involved for winning the level 1 title.

Last edited by rwystyrk at 12/21/2010 6:59:15 AM

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166665.37 in reply to 166665.36
Date: 12/21/2010 7:56:01 AM
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This change is the worst for common champions/finalist. Because they won't cut any costs and in addition they lost money from TV contracts. All teams lost these money, but they cut wage costs so finally their economy should be healthier, but the one of finalist probably won't be.
So fight for title is only for glory and B3 spot?
I hope there will be 50k bonus for each win in group play of B3, so that there is some potential bonus for winning the title. Or some bonus could be involved for winning the level 1 title.


when you loose money in the economics, tthe salarys would drop. And i don't think that you have to go more kamikaze then before for the title, when they are teams in your league who makes "-" for glory, they will do it independent from the system and more depending on the "-" they currently made.

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166665.39 in reply to 166665.38
Date: 12/21/2010 8:22:20 AM
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Look at the GM's and BB's defending a decision made amongst themselves. Why not put the idea out there and let us vote on it...At least the supporters. 5th isn't boring in the old system it is safe. Finish in 6th and risk being demoted...

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166665.40 in reply to 166665.37
Date: 12/21/2010 8:33:20 AM
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when you loose money in the economics, the salaries would drop.

It's not clear it's global lost, it could be lost for someone and profit for someone else. So impact on salaries is not clear, but impact on salaries is similar for everyone, so no advantage or disadvantage for anyone in this area. So in my eyes your arguments fail.

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