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152075.300 in reply to 152075.299
Date: 8/18/2010 8:36:41 AM
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I understand that training a good SF is as much a pain in the a** as it is rewarding when you sell him, but to train a good SF I have to loose a lot in competitivity (that means also losing incomes) for a long time, risking to relegate. That's why I was looking for a guy let's say "half trained". To save money and to have at least a player looking (from very far) like a SF.

Just to make you know: I'm not sure, even selling a fairly good trainee, that I'll be able to afford a player like him:

Age: 24
Height: 6'9" / 206 cm
Potential: MVP
Game Shape: respectable

Jump Shot: strong Jump Range: mediocre ↑
Outside Def.: strong Handling: average
Driving: mediocre Passing: awful
Inside Shot: proficient Inside Def.: strong
Rebounding: proficient Shot Blocking: average
Stamina: mediocre Free Throw: mediocre

Experience: awful

I just have to wish nobody from a country having less than 100 users is going to fancy him (maybe because in his hipotetical "Dontknowwhere Republic" II.1 he's good enough to make the difference), because I know that at the end of the auction I'll be short of thousands and I'll have to give up.
Now, you know what I mean?

Edit: I don't know if I'll ever see 2.9 millions on my team account... ever!

Last edited by TheMaxx © at 8/18/2010 8:37:29 AM

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152075.302 in reply to 152075.300
Date: 8/18/2010 9:08:18 AM
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Leave your team, go for a holiday to Malta and start playing there ;-)

You are fighting against Italian teams in IV., so you don't need to compare your team to any other team out of Italy. All of your real opponents have similar conditions as you. Only question is how competitive you can be after promotion to Italian III or how competitive you can be in Italian cup.

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152075.303 in reply to 152075.300
Date: 8/18/2010 9:09:59 AM
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Yep, for a lower league team nowadays the market seems like a poker table for average people.

You try to earn something with the few money you have but then, here it comes the big fat a** rich man who doesn't care anything about money 'cause he got plenty of it.

He doesn't need to be talented to win, he just have to make big raises until you're out of money....

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152075.304 in reply to 152075.302
Date: 8/18/2010 10:07:39 AM
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Maybe my English is not as good as I thought it was.
I never said I'm complaining about being more or less competitive againist teams in my league, moreover because this is a thread about economy.
What I'm saying, and read carefully because I'm not speaking just about my team, I'm speaking about all teams in the same conditions of mine, is that it's almost impossible to buy a decent player on the market because I'll never have enough money to compete againist players from small countries.
You saw the player I was talking about, and you saw the comment about it made by Smedlock? Well, I'll never have enough money to buy a player as good as he said because I'll always have to fight againist people who's making in a week the same money I'll make in a season, but only if I'm lucky.

My question is quite simple: why people playing from a small country can have the chance to make up a good team in, say, two seasons, and I have to struggle for years (not seasons, I mean really years) to buy a SF?

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152075.305 in reply to 152075.304
Date: 8/18/2010 10:31:23 AM
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My question is quite simple: why people playing from a small country can have the chance to make up a good team in, say, two seasons, and I have to struggle for years (not seasons, I mean really years) to buy a SF?


My answer is also simple: Because they play in different (small) country.
But again, you don't need to compete with teams in different countries.
You have to find your way how to compete with your league opponents even if it takes much more time or it means to buy worse players at the moment. Situation of your league opponents should be very similar to yours.

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152075.306 in reply to 152075.304
Date: 8/18/2010 10:39:28 AM
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As the big guy from the Czech Republic says, Italian teams are playing a different game to Japanese teams - and the market is tougher in your game. But it is not unfair, just a problem you and every other team in Italy has to deal with.

The plus side is that because your game is more difficult, you will become better at it faster (if you have the talent to be a good manager).

But yes, success is harder to achieve in large countries than small countries (but then again, the feeling of satisfaction should be that much greater when you are successful).

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152075.307 in reply to 152075.306
Date: 8/18/2010 11:11:28 AM
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As the big guy from the Czech Republic says, Italian teams are playing a different game to Japanese teams - and the market is tougher in your game. But it is not unfair, just a problem you and every other team in Italy has to deal with.

The plus side is that because your game is more difficult, you will become better at it faster (if you have the talent to be a good manager).

But yes, success is harder to achieve in large countries than small countries (but then again, the feeling of satisfaction should be that much greater when you are successful).

You will become a better manager,but you will be unable to buy players on the market to improve your team....do you think that is fair that this situation penalizes the managers that have to fight in more competitive situation?

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152075.308 in reply to 152075.307
Date: 8/18/2010 11:15:02 AM
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It's like I said before in this thread.

TheMaxx, you don't have money because your arena doesn't give you much money. In your last game you had like 134k. You pay almost 200k just in players salaries. You can't expect to have a lot of money if every week you gain 134k in the arena.

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152075.309 in reply to 152075.308
Date: 8/18/2010 11:29:10 AM
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Again,like I said before in this thread

The money you can gain from arena is limited by the division you are in,and by your record during the season
In stronger countries,you have more expenses to stay in a division or to be promoted,and have more possibilities to lose game.This fact is much more serious in lower divisions,where the level of expenses for salaries changes drammatically in the various countries

TheMaxx earn 134k in arena,because the system put a cap in his division around 140-145 k,and he had to spend 200k in players salaries
A team of a weaker country,have a similar cap on arena,but have to spend the half in salaries
And the point is that,while the team of the other country can do everything he wants programming his future,TheMaxx had to fight against great difficulties because the game doesn't reward the competitivity of his league,against a weaker division of another country,that can have more money to buy players on the SAME MARKET in which TheMaxx had to buy the players

I think my thought is clear enough...

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152075.310 in reply to 152075.304
Date: 8/18/2010 11:56:52 AM
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Unfortunately its what i said about the transfer market here in some posts ago.(that would not happen if the TL is right controlled, but now its a jungle).

When you are on a league that is really competitive and you are on a big country and also your income production is really limited, you have to be more smart in scouting the transfer market to make a good move in selling-buying than watching your opponents and doing lineups for the matchs.

You will see that in big countrys some of the successfull teams in medium divions are those who made great transactions on the TL or are doing great on training their players.

So as i said before, lot of managers have to pay more atention on the ''TL than on their own league'' and that its not really good for the game.

Last edited by Marot at 8/18/2010 11:59:17 AM

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