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9808.300 in reply to 9808.299
Date: 3/14/2008 7:21:09 AM
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Another opportunity for increased strategy would be a disabled list feature.

Injured players only could be placed on your disabled list. Maximum three at one time. The strategy would come in through a rule like this:

Players have to be on the disabled list for three weeks (for example). Even if they have healed, they remain on the list for the full three weeks. This tracks the DL in major sports.

For every player on the DL, you can add one to your active roster. One the player comes off, you will have one week to get down to the limit.

Strategy comes in to play like this:

Do you DL a player with a one week injury if he's one of your starters, in order to have a full squad for a big game or the playoffs?

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9808.301 in reply to 9808.299
Date: 3/14/2008 9:10:34 AM
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The roster limit would be increased from, say 15 to 18 for the two weeks following the draft. That would give everyone ample time to sell or cut three players and get down to the 15 limit.

I believe I posted this same suggestion in another thread.



Well i don't like that idea. Every one will set his 3 players on the TL but no one will buy them. So you are loosing them for nothing.

I want to have the chance of training a rookie and sell him when he is good enough, or keep him when he boosters my team.

Maybe a it is a good idea to limit the number of tradesfor every player for a season ?


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9808.302 in reply to 9808.301
Date: 3/14/2008 9:23:56 AM
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ok how about a profit share to the former owner, like this, if a bought player gets resold within a season, the former manager gets 50% of the tradeprice, that would make daytrades nearly impossible?

or the former owner gets 50% of the profit, that might would make both sides happy and the former team does not loose much if a player might gone for a to low price and daytraders would have more friends coz they make profit not only for themselfes no more, like everybody is happy when a daytrader bought their players?

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9808.303 in reply to 9808.302
Date: 3/14/2008 1:41:20 PM
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Limiting daytrading is not about 'making both owners happy'. It is about preventing the accumulation of excessive profits by trading teams.

"I don't know half of you half as well as I should like; and I like less than half of you half as well as you deserve."
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9808.304 in reply to 9808.303
Date: 3/14/2008 1:51:37 PM
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maybe my english is to bad and you did not understand?
so for you 50% less profit is preventing nothing?
and with the first part of my post you would not make profit at all...


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ok how about a profit share to the former owner, like this, if a bought player gets resold within a season, the former manager gets 50% of the tradeprice, that would make daytrades nearly impossible?

or the former owner gets 50% of the profit, that might would make both sides happy and the former team does not loose much if a player might gone for a to low price and daytraders would have more friends coz they make profit not only for themselfes no more, like everybody is happy when a daytrader bought their players?

That's what I was referring to. I meant that the goal of daytrade measures is not making the original seller happy. Everyone is responsible for their own decision for the listing price.

Plus, a similar structure is already in place -- you only get 80% of the transfer value for immediately reselling a player.

Last edited by GM-kozlodoev at 3/14/2008 2:11:48 PM

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9808.306 in reply to 9808.305
Date: 3/14/2008 2:16:14 PM
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whatever it was just an idea...
im sorry i found nothing that made you happy...

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9808.307 in reply to 9808.306
Date: 3/14/2008 2:36:34 PM
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I understand your idea, and it is not bad at all (from my point of view), as it balances the asymmetric money distribution between the manager who trained the player and the manager who daytraded with him.
At the end, it is a way to make daytraders work for all of us!

i.e. I sell a player, the bid ends at 7.00am, a daytrader takes my player for 10k, and immediately sells him for 200k at a better time (weekend maybe, 8.00pm). Applying your idea I would receive 50% of the money (100k) and I finally get 110k and the daytrader also gets 100k for the work of getting up early and the wear of his eyes. ;-)

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9808.308 in reply to 9808.307
Date: 3/14/2008 2:41:20 PM
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You are in full control of the listing price (and in a partial control of listing time, too).

"I don't know half of you half as well as I should like; and I like less than half of you half as well as you deserve."
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9808.309 in reply to 9808.308
Date: 3/14/2008 3:15:51 PM
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Of course you can take stronger decisions against daytraders,
but you can also have a stronger opposition from people.
And finally you are not sure whether this strong influence on the market would assure to stop daytraders without any other worse side effects.

I don´t think is a good idea to discard ideas without further discussion... give us at least a reason or comment about it or just don´t say anything.

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Date: 3/14/2008 3:22:09 PM
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Of course you can take stronger decisions against daytraders,
but you can also have a stronger opposition from people.
And finally you are not sure whether this strong influence on the market would assure to stop daytraders without any other worse side effects.

I don´t think is a good idea to discard ideas without further discussion... give us at least a reason or comment about it or just don´t say anything.

I am not discarding ideas. But when people suggest something along these lines, they forget that managers here are supposed to manage their team.

This of course includes making decisions about when to list players, and more importantly - at what price. I think it is counterproductive to let people be able to get away with poor business decisions -- looking at the issue conceptually, the problem with daytrading is not that the original seller is losing money. This is entirely in his control, so he must really be kicking himself. The problem occurs when the trader is allowed to make unchecked profits and make an egregious amount of money without any real penalties.

I think that even without doing anything right now, the situation will get better as the game expands and more good players are offered on the transfer market. But a penalty on in-game performance because of excessive trading and/or having too many players on the roster is a necessity, I think.

"I don't know half of you half as well as I should like; and I like less than half of you half as well as you deserve."
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