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This site are losing people because it's IMPOSSIBLE to get out of lower leagues... unless you spend your friggin life on this site. It's too much time consuming. People that are on high league like III or II are IMPOSSIBLE to beat. This is my usual lifecycle.

Play the V league. Non manager is able to play or compete whatsoever, proceed to absolutely sweep the league and go to IV.
Play the IV league. Getting annihilated, I mean, can fight to not going back in V but what's the point in that? Go back to V.

Repeat every single season.

So FRUSTRATING. The only way to break the cycle is to draft some stud but is real difficult and even if you draft someone you have to just spend entire seasons developing players... too much time consuming.

Last edited by sssavio at 10/10/2014 3:46:06 AM

Utopia started last seasons ago. so it is more like everybody is two seasons ahead ;)

Look mate, I think you missed the core of this game, which is economy. You really need to build up your arena, and since you're playing for a long time now, you should've finished it already.

Basically, you need to improve financial strength of your team, so you can support more expensive rosters. Arena is the way to go there.

Second, you need to train better. I suggest you try to make salary efficient players, not studs(if you mean high potential, high salary). You should try to get players with good starting skills, regardless of potential. Then build them up so they have a lot of skills on small salary.

I'm doing the same currently. I'm currently training an allstar, but I believe I can pack 110 skills into about 35k salary. And I'm using a cheap level 3 coach, and my trainee had normal starting skills, nothing special, I just got him randomly im my first season.

For example, my second trainee was a 19y MVP, but I didn't bother to train him up to 200k salary, I will just train thim with my main trainee at about 35k salary, maybe I continue training him, after my main trainee is capped, up to 50k or so. He will also be very salary efficient.

And I have a third trainee, also allstar, a bit weaker then the main guy, but he'll also have 100+ skills at 35k salary.

I believe my trainees will become very good and cheap backups for top leagues, and probably get a lot of value at the transfer market. Especially when they finally remove the blank lineups, and people start looking for low salary-high quality backups.

This site are losing people because it's IMPOSSIBLE to get out of lower leagues... unless you spend your friggin life on this site. It's too much time consuming. People that are on high league like III or II are IMPOSSIBLE to beat. This is my usual lifecycle.

Play the V league. Non manager is able to play or compete whatsoever, proceed to absolutely sweep the league and go to IV.
Play the IV league. Getting annihilated, I mean, can fight to not going back in V but what's the point in that? Go back to V.

Repeat every single season.

So FRUSTRATING. The only way to break the cycle is to draft some stud but is real difficult and even if you draft someone you have to just spend entire seasons developing players... too much time consuming.

I am sorry, but if you are not able to get out of IV division, then you are not good enough. Specially now that we have less users. And this law is the same for every competive game out there. There is only 16 teams in the top division and that means you need to be better than 99% of the italian managers to get there. And of course is going to be very time consuming:
- A lot of time to read the forums to really understand the game (check). Some users are incredible knowledgeable about the game.
- Proper use of different tactics (I don't really know most of them properly).
- Economy related stuff (check). A lot of teams are losing money every week or they make bad economic decisions and they dont even know.
- The trade market and training players (check). It's not essential, but can be very helpful.

This game is interesting because it is difficult to beat other humans with the same tools you have. Maybe you need to change your focus and try to enjoy improving your team and learning in the process. With time you may stop worrying about promoting and start to enjoy the game.

That's not true: I'm playing for 2 years (since season 20) and I'm in league II of Hellas, one of the biggest nations in BB.

I've also done my fair share of mistakes during this course. Check my transfers list for example, I'm terrible in buying/selling players.

But the knowledge is here, in the forums. If someone takes his time to read, he'll be fine.

The game is losing users because it's slow. Nothing can be done about that, it's a pill we have to swallow.

I have realized in my short experience on BB (since season 20) that contributions to forums are what keep new users involved. When a user is engaged by other users, it makes them feel less lonely in a game that takes a lot of patience and learning. Alot of countries have started a "Mentorship" program where new players can connect with seasoned veterans for advice and guidance, but I believe the most effective way to engage new users is for the individual league's forums to be active. If you see a new user pop up in your league, shoot them a message and offer advice and conversation about their team, the league, your past blunders, etc. Unfortunately most new users start off in bot filled lower leagues, where there might not be that much forum activity.

That's just my two cents.

I agree mate, I also believe communication is what keeps people around. There is virtually none of it in my country. No one even cares about NT..