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i am getting same error every time but when i checked history page of the site, i see that info has uploaded. should i trust this error warning or the history page?

In my experience it took 3 times as much training time to get a pop once the soft cap is reached. Discarding the 14 and 20 min you have got less than 9 weeks, and some of them at forward position. You have to ask yourself do you honestly expect him to pop with only 3 weeks of training? I bet you won't.

On a side note: I never heard of any hard cap.

I did and I imagine it like this:

Say you have a Superstar (8) with sublevel 8.5. MVP is 9.

So soft cap is 8.5 and hardcap is 9. This means he will train really slowly from 8.5 to 9, but once he comes to 9 he will stop.

And you got that information from...?

Now that I think of, maybe this is not confirmed directly from BBs, but mainly from speculations and "urban legends", circulating on this forums. Maybe it's not true, but I believe it anyway because until it's proven otherwise, I don't know what else to believe.

The urban legends I´ve been talking to think about the cap as a soft cap only - there´s a border, after which training slows down so massively, that it´s hardly worth spending training minutes on the player anymore. I know several player that have been trained over the "cap" which received like 12-13 weeks of full training till they got their next pop, but they got it nevertheless. I´m not sure why the system should use a "hard cap" when the soft cap mechanism (and the age factor) will sooner or later limit the players skills theoretically anyways.

Even if there is a hard cap, it would be pretty hard to find evidence outside a straight confirmation from the BBs, as the training effect becomes increasinly slow after reaching the soft cap. Maybe JosefKa with his data could provide some insight in this (and technically speaking the hard cap is just a special case of the soft cap with the training factor reaching 0).

Would be interesting to know if after reaching the soft cap there´s a "one-time hit" in speed (such as 1/10 of the age / size limitations) or if the development over the soft cap is still a function of potential reaching 0 at some point.

Last edited by LA-seelenjaeger at 9/11/2012 4:28:15 PM

I´m not sure why the system should use a "hard cap" when the soft cap mechanism (and the age factor) will sooner or later limit the players skills theoretically anyways.

Maybe because BBs wanted to prevent that a low potential player like 6th man could be trained until star or even allstar? Granted, it would probably take 7+ seasons, but it could be done.