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154960.316 in reply to 154960.315
Date: 8/24/2010 8:35:43 AM
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I wouldn't want to share the information to my nearest rival so that the top talents end up on his team instead of mine, but if anyone thinks that's an effective tactic, nobody stopts them.
I don't think this changed much in the new system though, you could also share this info in the old system in the two weeks between the edit draft order list, and the draft itself.


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154960.317 in reply to 154960.316
Date: 8/24/2010 8:40:23 AM
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Here is my own personal system that I developed if you are spending $40K per week:

-do the scouting combine and group demonstration
-ignore all 19 year olds, focus on the 18 year olds
-interview all 18 year olds with 4 and 5 ball skills
-then start at the top of your list, scout each player starting with the 5 balls and going down (remember, only 18 year olds)
-if you hit a guy with 4 or 5 balls in skill, interview him

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154960.318 in reply to 154960.316
Date: 8/24/2010 8:40:27 AM
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Well lets say me and my friend are in the same league. He is at the top of the league and I am near the bottom. I might want to help him out by sharing the list, I know I will still get a better pick than him but at least he has more information now.

Also, the reason it is easier to share information now is because people will use the scouting combine and people will easily be able to compare the age and height with someone else to more easily identify the player. This was harder in the old system because there wasn't anything specific to compare.

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154960.319 in reply to 154960.316
Date: 8/24/2010 8:43:15 AM
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Patrick,
would you mind confirming one thing?

The white balls (1 to 5) that you can see for each player before any scouting really and only relate to the skills the player will have, right?

I'm asking because after the group demonstration (or what the English word for the "All 1 and 2 ball players show their real skills" is) it doesn't like like there was ANY correlation between the white balls and the orange balls you see after the first scouting.

Would it be right to say that statistically the "5-white-ballers" are better than the rest?

I think Edju confirmed this already but to avoid any misunderstading, could you please comment on this once more?


We have both said a lot of things that you are going to regret.
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154960.320 in reply to 154960.319
Date: 8/24/2010 9:15:49 AM
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A small suggestion - there should be a place on the site where you can simulate a "mock scout" at any time for "new" users - in this case, we are all "new" - and this link should also be part of the new manager checklist that I recall having to go through when I first joined.

Server load issues? Then use a fixed talent pool so there is little to no processing involve. Everyone has 4*14 points to use, and can run through the exercise to get an idea for how to the new system works. It's just for practice - no lasting impact on the game. I imagine most people would use it 2-3x to get familiar and then not visit the link anymore.

But this way, one is able to get feel for how they would like to implement their actual scouting and spending strategy.

Just a suggestion.

Last edited by rocket.science at 8/24/2010 9:21:12 AM

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154960.321 in reply to 154960.317
Date: 8/24/2010 9:33:03 AM
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Here is my own personal system that I developed if you are spending $40K per week:

-do the scouting combine and group demonstration
-ignore all 19 year olds, focus on the 18 year olds
-interview all 18 year olds with 4 and 5 ball skills
-then start at the top of your list, scout each player starting with the 5 balls and going down (remember, only 18 year olds)
-if you hit a guy with 4 or 5 balls in skill, interview him



yap, my logic was also in that direction

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154960.322 in reply to 154960.321
Date: 8/24/2010 9:36:51 AM
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I guess its better to reset the system.... there are too many wrong things...

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154960.323 in reply to 154960.322
Date: 8/24/2010 9:44:24 AM
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LOL ! Nice proposal there ! But I got one too : the BBs can also fix the problems and don't run away each time they meet a bug.
What do you think ;) ?

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154960.324 in reply to 154960.322
Date: 8/24/2010 9:54:34 AM
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I guess its better to reset the system.... there are too many wrong things...


I say no reset. And I am willing to lobby hard for it.

If there must be a reset, I assume it only impacts a small number of draft pools. I would suggest only resetting the drafts where there was an issue with someone hitting negative scouting points.

But if this is not possible, I say no reset whatsoever. Either way is unfair. No reset is the lesser of the two evils.

Run of the Mill Canadian Manager
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154960.325 in reply to 154960.324
Date: 8/24/2010 9:57:03 AM
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no it is not , a reset is needed as teams have gained an unfair advantage.

ive got a great draft list ad im willing to give it up to promote fair play.

it was a bb error , teams should not be disadvantaged by this.

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154960.326 in reply to 154960.319
Date: 8/24/2010 9:59:37 AM
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These rankings are done based upon your coaching staff's very rough assessment of the talent of the player, based on a combination of the current skills and the talent of each player, but as in real life, the ranking will be imperfect, and some players will even be ranked very inaccurately. You will have to invest further in scouting these players to find some hidden gems and expose some talent for being over-hyped. Each team will have its own baseline rankings, but the amount of uncertainty in each set of rankings will be the same. Unlike in the previous system, however, there will be no free scouting points given out because we are instead giving the baseline rankings.

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