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5th place is the new 4th place

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166665.32 in reply to 166665.31
Date: 12/21/2010 5:10:23 AM
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haha i am currently using this situation:] bidding for few players who has combined salary of 85k:D i go to ~-100k per week if i pay them but if i pay i win and i go to div 4 then i can handle that salary, but if i lose i dont pay salary i dont go to div 4 and i can sell them during those 2weeks:D thats is unfair for teams who had no spare cash. if u seed 1 and u have 50k starting lineup and no spare cash u meet seed 4 in playoffs who has shitty team with 15k starting salary but since he saves money for 3 seasons he buy like 200k starting lineup and blows out u and goes to the higher league, thats not fair.

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166665.33 in reply to 166665.31
Date: 12/21/2010 5:16:32 AM
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I think one thing people aren't considering is with all the extra cash from not paying salaries, the bids on the off-season TL will rise to a certain extent. This may reduce the off-season deflation of player values we seem to always experience. So the benefits of the proposed day trading scenario may not be as great as they would be at first glance.

My only gripe is the current system rewarded solid financial planning for the off-season. Now that big part of the strategic side of the game is gone.

I see good and bad with these changes.

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166665.36 in reply to 166665.35
Date: 12/21/2010 6:58:59 AM
BC Hostivař
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This change is the worst for common champions/finalist. Because they won't cut any costs and in addition they lost money from TV contracts. All teams lost these money, but they cut wage costs so finally their economy should be healthier, but the one of finalist probably won't be.
So fight for title is only for glory and B3 spot?
I hope there will be 50k bonus for each win in group play of B3, so that there is some potential bonus for winning the title. Or some bonus could be involved for winning the level 1 title.

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166665.37 in reply to 166665.36
Date: 12/21/2010 7:56:01 AM
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This change is the worst for common champions/finalist. Because they won't cut any costs and in addition they lost money from TV contracts. All teams lost these money, but they cut wage costs so finally their economy should be healthier, but the one of finalist probably won't be.
So fight for title is only for glory and B3 spot?
I hope there will be 50k bonus for each win in group play of B3, so that there is some potential bonus for winning the title. Or some bonus could be involved for winning the level 1 title.


when you loose money in the economics, tthe salarys would drop. And i don't think that you have to go more kamikaze then before for the title, when they are teams in your league who makes "-" for glory, they will do it independent from the system and more depending on the "-" they currently made.

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166665.39 in reply to 166665.38
Date: 12/21/2010 8:22:20 AM
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Look at the GM's and BB's defending a decision made amongst themselves. Why not put the idea out there and let us vote on it...At least the supporters. 5th isn't boring in the old system it is safe. Finish in 6th and risk being demoted...

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166665.40 in reply to 166665.37
Date: 12/21/2010 8:33:20 AM
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when you loose money in the economics, the salaries would drop.

It's not clear it's global lost, it could be lost for someone and profit for someone else. So impact on salaries is not clear, but impact on salaries is similar for everyone, so no advantage or disadvantage for anyone in this area. So in my eyes your arguments fail.

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166665.42 in reply to 166665.21
Date: 12/21/2010 12:42:35 PM
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Still, having a system in which it's economically preferable to finish fifth rather than second in most cases doesn't seem all that great.


As with the previous system, it's not unless your view is limited to this two-week period. If you could win the same number of games in the same order and by the same margins, yet magically finish fifth instead of second, it's possible you could get more revenue from it in the present season. Otherwise, you lose money by losing wins, because your fans aren't happy.

If the fans were equally happy and supportive in the upcoming season regardless of whether you finished second or fifth, it's possible you'd get more revenue from it. They aren't.
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Where have I heard this before? hehe. It seems alot of people are posting here without reading, and the complaints are becoming quite redundant. In order to finish 5th if you should be 2nd, 3rd, or 4th you must purposely tank, which will lose you revenue, in many cases more than you would gain in the long haul by skipping one weeks salary. I dont think people want to look at the whole economics of this, prefering instead to look at just the one week salary vs the playoff loss revenue. If this was the only thing tanking games would effect you all would be right in your '5th place is better' argument. It's not. Tank away and see how much extra cash you get for it, lol.

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