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Daytraders will never die!!!

Hi I am a daytrader. And I have a clear conscience.

Have you think about how leagues are more competitive each season due to the training of all rosters?
Have you think about the difference in the Arena size? I joined BB in season 12 and I get a 18.000 stadium. User struggling in my same division are all older (BB-Team age) than me. So they had more time to invest on the arena. How can new-user grown faster than olders?

My point of view is that TL is a democratic place... - Maybe we can say, that it is a democratic jungle -
I tried to explain how I buy & 2weeks & sell to a few users, but they do not have my same results. A lot of things determine it and it is legal.

Market is going to be like now during a few seasons if no change will be done. Because, the first top-player are now on an age where none buy them for the FA first price. a 200k Center with multi-ridiculos of 32yo, it is not reliable for 1M.

GM made some changes - like the minimum salary cap - that are making economy more reliable, and I like this changes.
I also think that a lower market is more democratic. Players are more difficult to find if they are a first category player.

The only thing I found unfair is the difference between small and big countries.
For this reason I always hope that a filipine team will buy one of my 1k investment for 100k. As Robin Hood...



Last edited by Niccolò at 12/27/2011 11:54:21 AM

I find this giving me a headache and being amusing at the same time.

Daytraders will never die!!!

Hi I am a daytrader. And I have a clear conscience.

....

My point of view is that TL is a democratic place... - Maybe we can say, that it is a democratic jungle -
I tried to explain how I buy & 2weeks & sell to a few users, but they do not have my same results. A lot of things determine it and it is legal.

....

For this reason I always hope that a filipine team will buy one of my 1k investment for 100k. As Robin Hood...

I think this sums it up best: (202503.51)

The only thing I found unfair is the difference between small and big countries.
For this reason I always hope that a filipine team will buy one of my 1k investment for 100k. As Robin Hood...

That's something i see every week. Managers buy a rookie for 1-5k, they train it 1-2 weeks(or they don't train it) and after they sell it for 100-200k.

You can do it with 2-3 rookies x week and if you do it over and over again during all the season it's easy to take an advantatge over your opponents from this kind of day-trading.

This day-trading it's just about ''lying'' the new managers who don't know the players price(most of the times i see the buyers are new managers) and end wasting their money in players that aren't worth more than 10-20k


This day-trading hurts the game, i don't know why GM's doesn't suggest to BB's to stop this day-trading(since they see this everyday).

This day-trading it's just about ''lying'' the new managers who don't know the players price(most of the times i see the buyers are new managers) and end wasting their money in players that aren't worth more than 10-20k

If a player is sold for more than what he's worth, just report the purchase and it'll be investigated. If it's really definitely overpriced, the GMs will act.

If a player is sold for more than what he's worth, just report the purchase and it'll be investigated. If it's really definitely overpriced, the GMs will act.

The problem is a price range where the player isn't "definitely overpriced", but also no manager who is a bit experienced wouldn't pay this sum.

Here's an example from our league - I saw it today in the news:

(19379856)

I don't know his skills, but 195k DMI at Proficient GS indicates this player's virtual salary probably doesn't exceed 17-18k.

If a player is sold for more than what he's worth, just report the purchase and it'll be investigated. If it's really definitely overpriced, the GMs will act.

The problem is a price range where the player isn't "definitely overpriced", but also no manager who is a bit experienced wouldn't pay this sum.

Here's an example from our league - I saw it today in the news:

(19379856)

I don't know his skills, but 195k DMI at Proficient GS indicates this player's virtual salary probably doesn't exceed 17-18k.

Sure, if it's still kind of reasonable, we won't do anything usually. But that's all that can be done imho. In such an environment there are always newbies who tend too pay too much.

I agree with LA-Koperboy, the price range is so wide, i'm not talking/referring to non-legal transfers.

It's a common day-trading move i see, but from my pov it's not good for the new managers that they end paying a lot of money for rookies that aren't worth.

The gm's as a managers of their team they also do this day-trading moves(or at least i saw some doing it) or you agree that if 1 manager buy 1 rookie for 10k and sells it for 150k it's good for the game?(i'm not referring to non-legal moves ¡ )

PS: This is just an example that the transfer list we have is really on bad shape, offer&demand is far from reach an equilibrium atm and on next season it will be worst with all the 31-32 year old players that have high potential for really less price than their worth

Last edited by Marot at 12/28/2011 10:07:35 AM

It actually works this way so that taxes is of little significance: at the start of the season everyone is dumping their rookies on the market so that many of them are sold very cheaply. They are so cheap that if you pay enough attention, you can easily pick up a few 18 yo with 7 potential or 19 yo with 8+ potential at a 1-20k with decent stats. As the season progress the supply of 18-19 trainees dries up. Then those who stocked up these youngsters (many of them got 10 or even more) could start selling them for 100k+ (some even close to 300k), and mostly purchased by new managers who know too little about players prices and are looking to buy someone to train.

To sum up, the purchase price is dirt cheap. There is little upkeep in wages. Taxes doesn't matter because the profit margin (from a few k to 100k+) is too big. Nearly guaranteed profit with little input and skill. There is really very little downside for doing this. Sadly this has already become a well known strategy by many players around me and in China. But I refuse to do this. Now the question: does it sound alright to you?