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From: WFUnDina

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Free Agents are necessary for large nation teams in the lower divisions. This happens to also be were the majority of players are.

Your argument always comes across as "the rich need to keep getting more rich and the middle and lower class have no chance of moving up to take your spot."

Until every league earns the same amount of gate receipts, merchandise, tv contracts. None of the upper league teams have any right to complain about the market.


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Until every league earns the same amount of gate receipts, merchandise, tv contracts. None of the upper league teams have any right to complain about the market.




Would you pay the same amount of money to watch WNBA than to watch a Durant/James game?

That's what I thought.

From: CrazyEye

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It is the opposite of what you are saying. FA as it is is allowing top league/vet teams MORE dominance, allowing the rich to get richer. Its still relatively hard to for the bottom division teams to crack into the next level, they still pay a lot for players at their level.


did we get richer since the price is so low since they deflate the worth of our player(yes it should affect nearly our complete roster), or are it so uncompetive since the price is still so high and the solution is to increase the value of our roster in eleminating those fA which makes it "easier" to catch up since you need now much more money(no idea why this is easier or more competive) ;)

Or is the price so deflated, that you can easily get to the level, which you say before.

From: CrazyEye

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my saved money are the "worthless" roster, and we don't earn that much money* in micronation this might be different.

So tanking is the problem there.

* when we don't loose it, the average income is 18k in my league.

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From: WFUnDina

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F its okay for the NT guys to be 200k or whatever, then guys under 10k should be wroth 1k or like $1 even. That would make it easy for new teams to build competitive rosters, on the cheap, and develop.


You know thats not why this is. It's this way, because, their are way less teams that can afford a 200k player, then can afford a 20/30k player. Every team can afford the latter, that's why the demand is higher.

From: WFUnDina

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I am making these argument as JBBL champ for a reaosn, because no aspect of the game held me back. Its a goofy game. I won last season cuz my major competition tanked or quit. Sharman quit it seems even, former B3 winner. THe list of people who got to a high level in this game and felt it favored them too much and was imbalanced/too easy and then quit is pretty long. In Japan too, but micronation is part of that. Now though the entire economy is wacked out.


I agree with you to a point. The economy is out of whack, but its hardly because of the Transfer List and players values. Its because of the (sic)revenue that being in small or micro nations are allotted. Just because you residue in Peru (no idea just guessing) you get to charge twice as much for tickets as a player that just signed up in Spain. Along with getting a bigger TV contract. This is were the economy is out of whack. We know this issue won't be resolved, since people in those nice revenue pockets, won't give up their advantage.

I don't care if NT players sell for 200k even really, overall that might not be bad thing, but what is nuts then is why are 30k and 40k salary players selling for 400 and 500k???? imbalance. The range of 10kish gaurds and 20kish bigs don't go FA, creating a void at that value range, lower division teams are FORCED to shop in the 30/40k salary range player, either htat or its the vanilla team and slow to develop trainees they are stuck with, and they never promote. Its just those low division team spending bunches on 30~40k guys that can promote, and they have a harder time at it then if lower salaries were aviable for like 5k etc. players that would be useless to me.


The reason that 30 to 40K Guards sell for that much, compared to similarly priced Bigs, is that there aren't enough of them to fill demand. I know several managers that are looking for "good" PG's they are just harder to come by unless you buy Old players.

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I am making these argument as JBBL champ for a reaosn, because no aspect of the game held me back. Its a goofy game. I won last season cuz my major competition tanked or quit. Sharman quit it seems even, former B3 winner. THe list of people who got to a high level in this game and felt it favored them too much and was imbalanced/too easy and then quit is pretty long. In Japan too, but micronation is part of that. Now though the entire economy is wacked out.


I agree with you to a point. The economy is out of whack, but its hardly because of the Transfer List and players values. Its because of the (sic)revenue that being in small or micro nations are allotted. Just because you residue in Peru (no idea just guessing) you get to charge twice as much for tickets as a player that just signed up in Spain. Along with getting a bigger TV contract. This is were the economy is out of whack. We know this issue won't be resolved, since people in those nice revenue pockets, won't give up their advantage.

I don't care if NT players sell for 200k even really, overall that might not be bad thing, but what is nuts then is why are 30k and 40k salary players selling for 400 and 500k???? imbalance. The range of 10kish gaurds and 20kish bigs don't go FA, creating a void at that value range, lower division teams are FORCED to shop in the 30/40k salary range player, either htat or its the vanilla team and slow to develop trainees they are stuck with, and they never promote. Its just those low division team spending bunches on 30~40k guys that can promote, and they have a harder time at it then if lower salaries were aviable for like 5k etc. players that would be useless to me.


The reason that 30 to 40K Guards sell for that much, compared to similarly priced Bigs, is that there aren't enough of them to fill demand. I know several managers that are looking for "good" PG's they are just harder to come by unless you buy Old players.



There aren't enough to fill demand, because all the guys with the potential to be trained to this point would usually be bought and trained by lesser division teams. But the owners of said teams are not successful in acquiring the prospects to train in the first place.

5 days i've spent trying to unload almost 70k at "10-50K" selling 18 year old PA potential guards, and 5 days I have been outbid on every single one. Is it too much to ask to just land 1? Trying to train 3 at once here, a 3rd PA pot guy would be nice, but I can train the allstar guy have currently. I'm trying to help the economy as an indirect result of helping myself. But not having much luck in doing so.

Overall I'd have to say I agree with Wolph

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