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i agree that would be bad

i dont think there is ever equilibrium but in a good market demand & supply will tend towards it

why would any1 pay $1.5 mill 4 a 10K player when u can train 3 of them in 1 season?

so every season of training i can make $4.5 million profit? rubbish!

i havent been around that long but 4 sure u r right players used 2 be way 2 expensive

$10k players = $1.5 million = bad
$300k players = $100k = bad

surely through limited turning on of the free agents each season we could achieve a good balance

@ the guy that asked what % FAs r i agree it is 5% or even less but that doesnt matter

90% of players listed are $1k turds worth nothing or real players listed way above what they r worth (according 2 current market prices)

jump on the tl @ any time of day or night & just book mark @ random the next 20 non free agents listed not @ $1 & guess what 90% dont sell

free agents sell, well mostly, so maybe they are 5% or even less of the market but they r probably 25% or more of $100k+ sales

I can't say if free agents are the reason for every downside this game might have but I can say I really miss those day where you bought several players - trained them, kept a few, sold a few, made profit and hoped to do a better job then your team mates.

Training did lose it's value towards the years and managers are now training more and more GS (Which was more or less the last thing you wanted to do back in the days...)

totally agree back then training was really important now i think it is more for fun than to really help u win

a team training having to run young guys 48+ having to strictly follow depth chart & in the end having a player worth peanuts vs a team that can just run its best oster every game & have all in great gs each week by training gs

which is more of a challenge & more fun = the 1st

which will win more = the 2nd

the game is encouraging a more simplistic model of success that sucks the fun out of the game

intesting posts here. but When I saved up cash in D4 for 2 seasons I'll boost my roster big time!

I know this is a way back in the thread, but I feel a need to mention this. Tough, I'm going to try to be polite as possible, but posts like this are why some people consider your posts somewhat annoying. I know you care about your team, just as I care about mine, but the difference is you don't see me bringing my team up in threads all over the forums. It's because other people don't really care about my team, they care about their own. Same with your team. While I think it's great how enthusiastic you are about your team, we don't really need to read about them all the time. That's what your newspaper is for, and this kind of stuff is probably better suited there. :)

Last edited by adchester at 8/9/2012 8:48:04 PM

totally agree back then training was really important now i think it is more for fun than to really help u win

a team training having to run young guys 48+ having to strictly follow depth chart & in the end having a player worth peanuts vs a team that can just run its best oster every game & have all in great gs each week by training gs

which is more of a challenge & more fun = the 1st

which will win more = the 2nd

the game is encouraging a more simplistic model of success that sucks the fun out of the game

I agree with you on this, but I think there are some users, probably a large amount, that would think the 2nd would be "more fun". It depends on your POV. I would like something that makes training a more feasible pursuit, though.

Last edited by adchester at 8/9/2012 8:59:07 PM

ah I see now, thanks for the advice.............

y but think of the numbers

if 0 d1 teams train that is 16 teams not training

but if 1/2 d3 teams can still train cause it is easy for them & they can make a profit that is 16 x 8 = 128 a lot more significant than the top div teams

& also what is happening with the pathetic out of control flood of free agent is weaker trainees like allstars dont get trained anymore but 18yo MVP+ guys still sell for far more than they will be worth once they r trained god knows why & they still get great training

perrenial allstars are still a good investment, but yeah, all-star- is getting undervalued. Let's see in my draft I drafted a 2k C 6'9'' James Boyle, who was really really bad but I decided to train him with Coleman to see what happens and then he gets injured, when he got injured I sacked him and got a steal in Delong. Only all stars+ with 3k+ salary get trained also trainees on new teams get trained too anyone above allstar potential is good start for a new team. but now since your right FAs are flooding the TL the number of all stars getting trained is decreasing, number of ss+ is increasing, soon in BB allstars will get SACKED and then there'll be brawls for those SS+ people. Especially if they're HOF potential then they'd be going for 3+Mil then trainees will be valuable then when the FA flow stops or runs out (like the USA Proposed year ending 20?? when Social Sercurity Retirment will run out) then there will be a major depression and allstars and stars and starters will get trained again, and it'll take about 5-6 seasons for the TL to recover. At the rate we're going we will may run out at S27-S35. That's when the next depression in BB will start if we don't keep training those still worth while all stars and stars, while P. Allstars+ will be worth like 1 MIL 5 MIL for ATG's 4MIL and you know the rest, so we need to keep training or a major depression will begin, I heard that back in Seasons 11-15 there was a major depression I think? Is that true?

What? I'm not even sure what you're trying to say here...

Last edited by adchester at 8/10/2012 11:07:55 PM

basically all I'm saying (in a short paragraph now) is that all star rooks are undervalued and that FAs are going to run out soon, if FA's run out there's a depression (running out and spike in prices) and then there'd have to be training of all stars now. get it? a depression=financial meltdown=hard ties for new teams who can only buy all stars and cna only improve in training, cause everyone that's worthful is rare and they go for 6 figures and maybe 7 figures.... now you get it adc?