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238678.32 in reply to 238678.31
Date: 3/13/2013 5:51:00 PM
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I agree with you Ivko mate.

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238678.33 in reply to 238678.32
Date: 3/13/2013 7:20:03 PM
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Yeah, the more I think about it the more I agree that a slight enthusiasm hit would be a better option as well.

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238678.34 in reply to 238678.32
Date: 3/13/2013 7:25:14 PM
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BB-patrick gave us a very good reason why enthusiasm drop cant happen. (238664.34)

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238678.36 in reply to 238678.34
Date: 3/13/2013 8:04:43 PM
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Yea but I don't like it.

If a player come to a team, he can disrupt the team spirit so your team ent drop.. It's for me the better option.

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238678.37 in reply to 238678.36
Date: 3/13/2013 8:12:59 PM
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Especially for teams that promote and thus have come into some new money
and are of course building up to the already well stocked teams at the next level
it seems that the game shape hit should not take effect until later, lets say week 5.
If a new team is still building in the 3rd week, why punish an already understaffed group by handing them another hit with a drop in game shape?

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238678.38 in reply to 238678.36
Date: 3/13/2013 8:45:51 PM
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Yea but I don't like it.

If a player come to a team, he can disrupt the team spirit so your team ent drop.. It's for me the better option.


That's far worse - if a team is in the playoffs and is confident of promotion or otherwise sees a player that is a good long-term fit for them, they have to decide to not buy a player because it would disrupt their postseason performances, when in this proposal the player's gameshape hit would be irrelevant as he's not eligible for the playoffs anyhow. It's completely backwards to try to prevent the addition of temporary rental players by making *existing* players on the roster perform worse, which is precisely the effect an enthusiasm drop would cause.

The simple truth is that in the big picture, you're either keeping the player long enough that a short-term GS hit (which we don't even know the parameters of yet) is going to be irrelevant, or you're simply trading players too frequently and should feel some negative consequences.

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238678.39 in reply to 238678.38
Date: 3/13/2013 9:31:51 PM
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I think it'd be completely feasible to make playoff additions who can't play anyways not effect the enthusiasm, along with perhaps players below a certain salary(trainees/scrubs)

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238678.40 in reply to 238678.39
Date: 3/13/2013 9:35:04 PM
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And the point in that suggestion is? Beeing competitive in friendlies and PL?

Trainees shall get their minutes nevertheless, as will players with bad gameshape in friendlies.

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Date: 3/13/2013 11:10:19 PM
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"Enthusiasm" not GS as in I was referring to my earlier support of lowering team enthusiasm instead of GS.

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238678.42 in reply to 238678.41
Date: 3/13/2013 11:30:21 PM
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I have only skimmed this thread so if anything I say is reptitive I apologize.

Someone suggested that BB makes all the QFs of every country start at the same time, so smaller countries that have QFs earlier in the season would have to wait until the bigger nations caught up and during the weeks without cup games they can schedule scrimmages. That way a cup deadline would be feasible.

When you fire a staff member you pay a severance fee(their current weekly salary). Why not do that for whenever you fire a player? It would discourage people from buying players for one game and then firing them before the economy update and force people to pay the salaries of the player either way. I dont think it will completely solve the problem, but it could help.

I personal dislike this GS hit. If anything it should just reset the GS to 7, unless they are under 7 in which case they would just stay at what they are. Or even just 1 level of GS drop so 9-->8 and 8-->7 unless its at 7 or lower in which case it would remain unchanged.

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