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From: BB-Marin

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255435.32 in reply to 255435.30
Date: 3/4/2014 9:11:51 AM
TrenseRI
III.2
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ChiLeaders
BB-Marin has my name for Dev's, but he explains (3times) that DigitalFieldTheory isn't hiring. I propose for free, but... answer is the same!
Hiring is not an option at the moment, as I already explained. Thanks for the offer though, but the situation hasn't changed.
Also, you must understand our caution with giving access to our code and/or database to people, since we had very bad experiences in the past.
EDIT: Although that's not the only reason why we're not hiring.

@everyone: Your comments/criticisms/suggestions are all being read and taken into account. We might decide to change some of the features of the "Utopia" league if it seems that the change would improve the feature during the implementation and testing process, just as we said in the newspost, so your input will be taken into account. That said, it will take for some very compelling arguments to change our initial plan.

Last edited by BB-Marin at 3/4/2014 9:14:47 AM

From: minde
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255435.33 in reply to 255435.31
Date: 3/4/2014 9:18:21 AM
No Good News
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Backyard Brawlers
Come on, guys, this utpia idea is really bad.. Why do we need a fictional country? How is that fun? I love this game, but it is becoming very complex and unrealistic..
I play this game for a long time now and got familiar with all the new features of the game (like staff system, now GDP and etc) step by step, i got time to understand them, but will the new users be interested in such game and can understand those features quite quickly until this game seems unrelistic complex to them.. And now the Utopia.. If I signed for the game after the next offseason and saw imaginary nations, I don't think I would play the game any more..
Maybe Utopia should be Mars, all players would be green.. That would be really cool, wouldn't it? And there should be not three point line, but four point line, the game would be balanced with inside and outside tactics.. Well this paragraph was a joke..
And what about the new users after the 10 seasons.. Will there be another Utopia, so they would have a chance like we have now? Because after 10 seasons (or later) the Utopia will be like Spain..
Well, thats just my opinion..
Sorry for my English..

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255435.34 in reply to 255435.31
Date: 3/4/2014 9:23:39 AM
Sin City inFamous
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Yep, i read what is written in news, otherwise i can't write there:)

This answer is positive and proactive, but doesn't clear my doubts.

I "moved" puntual questions, which can be resumed in these:

-don't you think (naturally, you is common intended) that 2nd team, as "somewhat exclusive", classified supporters in a 2nd level exclusivity and 2nd team at the top? and the cost issue underlines that: for 10$ i can (may, is better) double my fun eternally, but with 40$ i can add some useful but not so important things, for just one year! I repeat, i love BB, but this appears, IMO, like Bill Gates who's in front of a church asking people some pennies despite having more profits from his main brand. Yep, this is an Hyperbole, but it's my idea, and still nobody has cleared it from my mind.

-Don't you think that 2nd team supporter for free is a thing of "sop"?

-this is personal feeling: how can, a people who offers himself directly to help, believe in last one sentence?


After all, i hope these sentences are understand as constructive criticism...



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255435.37 in reply to 255435.32
Date: 3/4/2014 9:34:05 AM
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Transfer market and draft: [...] Likewise, the “Utopia” teams will be free to buy and sell players from all other teams (except their original teams, including players previously owned by them, and vice versa).


I think this point is quite difficult. There´ll be two different tactics next year:
1. Tanking first season to get the first pick, sell the pick for good money and marching through the divisions afterwards.
2. Buying cheap players for promotion, and there´ll be only one tactic which will be played: LI. Reason is simple: Even in times of the GDP it´s the best working tactic, for OD is completely overpowered in the game what makes 3-point-shooters not attractive. And, another reason: LI is dominating the last seasons, so most of the older, cheaper players are LI-specific. Because of these points new teams will buy cheap old LI-players, saving the money for coaches and training shape instead, at least until they are in Div. II. So we´ll have a larger gap in the transfer market for some seasons, and even more LI-teams than nowadays.

Easy thing to avoid all these problems: Closed market for Utopia in the first few seasons, and open it after some time, once "the great run" is done.

Last edited by Faultier at 3/4/2014 9:36:12 AM

From: GM-Dyd
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255435.38 in reply to 255435.36
Date: 3/4/2014 10:07:41 AM
Sin City inFamous
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As for offering you for developping, this is another topic altogether. Marin answered to it. Offering to do something for free doesn't mean the offer is good. You have to admit that you would not give your spare keys to anyone offering to clean your house/appartment for free just because they offer it. It's up to the BBs to decide that, but their thinking is logical.


oh, surely. It's my, personal, doubt in fact. I know enough about Marin first issue, and i understand it. But i expect at least a little test. You can evaluate offer, having more feedback. And also answer, despite all, "no, you're too stupid/you've not enough skills for being a BB-Developer/helper".
IMO (and only IMO) a sentence where you asked for money and, at the same time, you refuse to test free options is a lack of consistency.
But ok. Closed the Off Topic situation, i've my answer, Marin consideration and then it become a private solution.


Second team will be 10$ a year, not one unique payment. It doesn't seem clear in what you say.


you're right. It seems different at my eyes this morning, so, probably i keep in mind this different info. But the difference still remains. Supporter is 4 times 2nd team, but 2nd team is still "somewhat exclusively", and supporter has his "sop" in free package for teams having it.


Another issue. No rules if i don't renew the 2nd team package? i can't read anything in the newspost.


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255435.40 in reply to 255435.39
Date: 3/4/2014 10:24:13 AM
Sin City inFamous
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Another issue. No rules if i don't renew the 2nd team package? i can't read anything in the newspost.


Botification.



day after the package end or after "your team" days?

From: GM-hrudey

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255435.42 in reply to 255435.33
Date: 3/4/2014 10:35:02 AM
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Come on, guys, this utpia idea is really bad.. Why do we need a fictional country?


What if they call it Mark Cuban's Invite Only Private Island for Elite Basketball Managers and Players?

It's a name. Just pretend that the citizens of whatever country they decide to use to represent it on the map got all idealistic and decided to call their country that - just like we don't get in a tizzy that what we in the US refer to as "Germany" is Deutschland or what we call Holland or the Netherlands or that wacky place the Dutch call home is "Nederland".

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