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61865.32 in reply to 61865.29
Date: 11/28/2008 7:59:16 PM
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I don't think you can shake it off as "them's the breaks" - I plan my training so that when I need to play players out of position to give them the training I want, it is against the weaker teams in my league. I carry $15k of extra salary to give me flexibility. Training is hugely important to my view of this game - I feel I have been handicapped because someone hasn't done their job well enough, compounded by poor communication of what would have to be done to fix it and what steps we could take as a community to help.
The 'fix' hasn't worked, so just 'reset'.

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61865.33 in reply to 61865.23
Date: 11/28/2008 8:03:35 PM
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I'm open to other suggestions for how we can try to make things right, but we have no capability to go back and rerun training and it would be massively unfair to only try and patch things for the individuals who complain, particularly as we have a tendency to only hear those who are complaining in English.


But actually, what can you do?

my sugestions>

1. Cancell all trainings and make them double next week

2. Cancell all training to those who complain, and give them double next week.
(so you can take whole week to colect all objections)

3. Give us (everybody) one more training this week, before 2morrow games

4. Find a way to give stronger training nxt week, to those who are damaged this

5. - the worst thing - do nothing!

From: Emilio

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61865.34 in reply to 61865.17
Date: 11/28/2008 8:05:43 PM
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I am just giving my opinion. My point of view is different from yours.
I alway try to think first what could I have done better before blaming other people.

Of course there is a bug, and it has been fixed in the best possible way. I would complaint stronger if I see they are doing nothing to solve it. Not the case at all.

Every manager online game suffers from the same problems from time to time. We all make mistakes and it is not always possible to restore everything perfectly.

¡Me aburro! (Homer Simpson)
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61865.35 in reply to 61865.23
Date: 11/28/2008 8:06:56 PM
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It's quite difficult to suggest a solution if the starting position is there is no solution.

Anyway, I think the most important thing is to have everyone with the same training conditions. So, immediately reset game shape for all now and clearly announce that training will be rerun on Monday and will be based on this last week games. There would be enough time for enough to see the announcement and, even better, the email. In this way, only the Saturday game will be "wrong"

This is just an example.

From: PISolo

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61865.36 in reply to 61865.34
Date: 11/28/2008 8:12:39 PM
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I am just giving my opinion. My point of view is different from yours.
I alway try to think first what could I have done better before blaming other people.

Of course there is a bug, and it has been fixed in the best possible way. I would complaint stronger if I see they are doing nothing to solve it. Not the case at all.

Every manager online game suffers from the same problems from time to time. We all make mistakes and it is not always possible to restore everything perfectly.



no.....
the bug was for all the players......
after the new train session the problems remain for "some" of they......

this is not correct..... say to us if you can do something for our train.....

please

From: Elmacca

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61865.37 in reply to 61865.34
Date: 11/28/2008 8:12:45 PM
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"Blaming other people"

You mean, pointing out to the people paid to run this game fairly and effectively that their chosen solution isn't effective - or fair?

I didn't write the code, so I didn't think about what I could've done to make it better. When asked, I believe I have proposed a better, fairer solution than the one currently in place.

So, I disagree that it has been fixed in "the best possible way"

I also find your words about online games in general weasel-born, and personally offensive in the insult to my intelligence.




From: Jan Tux

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61865.38 in reply to 61865.34
Date: 11/28/2008 8:13:17 PM
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I am just giving my opinion. My point of view is different from yours.
I alway try to think first what could I have done better before blaming other people.

Of course there is a bug, and it has been fixed in the best possible way. I would complaint stronger if I see they are doing nothing to solve it. Not the case at all.

Every manager online game suffers from the same problems from time to time. We all make mistakes and it is not always possible to restore everything perfectly.


We see your point of view and we see it's different from ours. But again, we do not agree with you and, anyway, you don't help to solve the problem.

From: Elmacca

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61865.39 in reply to 61865.38
Date: 11/28/2008 8:15:42 PM
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Mate, I think I'll just let you answer this guy. That's as near-perfect a summation of his non-contribution as makes no difference.

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61865.40 in reply to 61865.39
Date: 11/28/2008 8:27:30 PM
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OK.. so charles and I have been furiously discussing this issue, as we are both highly unsatisfied with the situation... and we just had a realization that might make the situation salvageable.... I dont want to promise too much till we work out the details and make sure it is indeed technically feasible.. and the solution isnt perfect, but it is better than nothing. Stayed tuned please for an update throughout the evening.

From: Emilio

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61865.41 in reply to 61865.38
Date: 11/28/2008 8:29:20 PM
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I can´t do anything. I am a normal user as you are.

Not all messages in this forum must be helpful for your problem. I am free to give my opinions here even if it is not what you want to hear.

I stop this discussion before we go to personal attacks. It was not my intention.

¡Me aburro! (Homer Simpson)
From: Elmacca

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61865.42 in reply to 61865.41
Date: 11/28/2008 8:34:18 PM
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Nor mine. I just felt that you were sticking up for people who are quite capable of communicating for themselves, fudging the issue and wasting time and space doing so. Of course, it is your right to do so. Happily acknowledged. Happy to move on.

Anyway, I am heartened to hear that the BBs have decided to keep working on the issue and look forward to seeing their revised solution later this morning (it's 1.30am here).

G'night BB-world.

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