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381.321 in reply to 381.320
Date: 2/1/2008 3:50:21 PM
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Yeah that's true. But I assume it's exponential. At least it should be, almost all formulas in Hattrick are exponential, just an example of course.

I thought someone said before that whne you got under 48 minutes it had a huge negative impact, so that should mean exponential, but the rules says nothing about it;

If they play more than 48 minutes, this is not a problem. If players play under 48 minutes, they will still improve, but less quickly than they would if they got more playing time.

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Date: 2/1/2008 4:14:09 PM
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What the advantage of training (and playing the salary for) 4 players when 3 will do?

Keep your best 3 and sell the 4th guy...

Steve
Bruins!

From: eran80

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Date: 2/1/2008 6:18:59 PM
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hi.i am training REB for a long time ( ithing 8 weeks) and only the REB had pump up , not the IS or ID. i trained C and PF, coach with level 8.
you wrot that the IS and ID will pump up offter 4-5 weeks. i thing u need to change it but i don't know how long.

From: JayP

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Date: 2/1/2008 6:23:58 PM
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Were you training 18 y/o's giving them 48 mins every week?

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Date: 2/1/2008 7:36:02 PM
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I had the same thing happen. I trained 4 players in RB (C/PF, lvl 9/8 trainer) for 8 weeks, and had only one player pop in Inside Shot.

It appears that what we thought we knew about the training of secondaries was highly optimistic. It will be very difficult to see just how long it takes to have a secondary skill pop twice, because the primary skill will increase very quickly (perhaps too quickly). In order to really know the speed of the secondary training, one would have to train the same primary until the secondary popped twice; from my experience that would mean training only one skill for more than a season and creating mono-skilled behemoths in the process.

For instance, I'd suggest an 18-20yo player will pop in RB twice every three weeks (I'd assume this is also accurate for all other skills, but haven't tested it yet) or 7-8 levels per season (not including playoffs). So a player could easily be trained from respectable to wondrous in a primary skill during the course of one season, without his secondaries popping twice.

The prevailing wisdom around these forums has always been to rotate training. I am apt to agree, as longer I trained RB during my 8-week study, the more I saw my team suffering in other areas (i.e., I now have a player with prominent RB that still has atrocious SB).

@WFU03:
Perhaps it would be best to remove the suggested # of weeks from secondaries altogether in the first post. For instance:
RB C/PF
Trains RB 1-3 weeks
Also trains IS, ID


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Date: 2/1/2008 7:57:15 PM
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Probably zero advatage but i might train the fourth SG using the PG slot in scrimmages/cup games as i only have 2 training worthy PG's

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Date: 2/1/2008 8:56:03 PM
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I know this will be obvious - but how do I best try to improve outside defence - for SG SF. Is it pressure, or one on one??

From: darykjozef

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Pressure.

One on one trains driving.

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Date: 2/9/2008 9:50:16 PM
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is there any data yet that can show any difference between training Jump Shot or Outside shooting?

From only 2 teams of data i have noticed more pops in JS when training JS (dont shoot me for pointing out the obvious!) and more pops in JR when training Outside shooting.... as this is not sufficient data.. wanted to see if anyone specifically training shooters could shed some light....

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Date: 2/9/2008 9:53:18 PM
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Having in mind there doesn't seem to be a primary training in this list for Jump Range, I think it is safe to assume that Outside Shooting is the primary training for range, and Jump Shot is the primary training for shooting. This, of course, is just an educated guess.

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