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78242.323 in reply to 78242.322
Date: 8/10/2010 1:30:10 PM
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JS 13 JR 8
OD 4 HA 11
DR 12 PA 8
IS 7 ID 8
RB 8 SB 2

6'5 (196 cm)

21 YO

multiple JS and JR trainings in the last few weeks. Last non - ST/FT pop was 8 weeks ago. He missed a couple with injuries but he's noticably not popping anymore.

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78242.324 in reply to 78242.323
Date: 8/10/2010 1:40:37 PM
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I would try training one on one for the next 3 weeks. If you don't get a pop in something after that then he has most likely capped. Although his skills are pretty high at the moment so he is probably already capped.

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78242.325 in reply to 78242.324
Date: 8/10/2010 1:55:05 PM
Totwart
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I remember it again:

-- Please post your general questions about training in the help forums (/BBWeb/Forum/read.aspx?folder=64). This thread is training speed analysis only

Personal problems with training or players should be asked in the help forum, not here

From: Jokehim

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78242.326 in reply to 78242.1
Date: 9/3/2010 7:51:11 AM
Jokehim Maniacs
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I trained 3 players with a level 6 trainer during 8 weeks. I trained only PG in pressure:
1) 18 year old, 190 cm. He got 40-45 minutes most of these weeks. Popped week 1, 3, 6 and 8 in OD and week 2 in ID. Started with respectable OD.
2) 21 year old, 183 cm. He had at least 48 minutes for most of these 8 weeks but not all. Popped week 2, 4, 6 and 8 in OD, week 4 in ID and week 7 in handling. Started with proficient OD.
3) 23 year old, 188 cm. He had about 46 minutes most of the weeks. Sometimes a little more and rarely less. Popped week 2, 4 and 7 in OD and week 8 in driving.

My conclusion from this is that you get a punishment for training less than 48 minutes but that it is still much faster than training 2 positions for these players. Player 1) had one week but about 40 minutes and during that week he should have popped according to pop every second week but still low punishment. Also interesting that a 21 year old player popped as frequent as the initial time suggestion in this thread.

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78242.327 in reply to 78242.326
Date: 9/4/2010 4:02:23 PM
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Great report and really interesting to look at...

You should take into consideration that the height has a great influence on the pressure training. Probably your 18 year old trainee would have poped more that the 21 if the heights were the same. If you continue with pressure on this guys please report how did they go

Thanks

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78242.329 in reply to 78242.328
Date: 9/10/2010 1:21:28 AM
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27 pops in 10 weeks isn't very good considering it is spread out over 27 players.
Using that method you are getting 1 pop every 10 weeks.
That means that your team is not improving very fast (remember you can only have 5 players on the court at a time),
and it also means that you are losing a lot of value on your 18 year olds because all of them only increased by 1 popup and it took 10 weeks which is most of the season.
This tactic would not work.

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78242.331 in reply to 78242.330
Date: 9/10/2010 2:41:33 AM
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I was just explaining that it wasn't worth it.
What are you counting as partial minutes? 45? 40? 35?
Even if it was 1 pop every 4 weeks it wouldn't be worth it. I was just saying the tactic is no good incase someone decides to try it.
I think that it is too hard to get partial training anyway so 2 position is easier in that respect.

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78242.333 in reply to 78242.332
Date: 9/10/2010 5:08:49 AM
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Playing 1 minute is NOT the same as playing 47 minutes for training.

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