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LA-wolph is correct. It's really depends on your tactics but "GENERALLY" I find that JR about as high as strong is good for guards that play motion in this league. Its also depends on your opponents defense, some league you might need abit higher but respectable to strong here is OK.

I believe for a PG, Ushio's JR is quite low. unless his inside scoring is high and your tactics are look inside or base offense etc..
then you can get away from pitiful JR. But offense such as motion, ptb, r&g will need respectable or higher JR. Another good point is that, higher JR means his value on the market is higher aswell. SF also needs higher JR if you planning to turn Ushio to an SF.

Last edited by sgt.sagara at 2/15/2011 3:41:55 AM

We thank you both for your advice. The bad news for Ushio is while he got trained every single week last season 48+ and this season also every week at 48+ soon we will be stopping JS (as soon as Hisanobu pops) and moving onto OD and PA. Then 3 of my 6 trainees will be sad.

I had been wondering for a long time who to keep on training and who to drop. My current 6 guys are:
Daisaku Kawaida Weekly salary: $ 4 984 Age: 19 Height: 6'3" / 190 cm Potential: allstar
Jotaro Kinjo Weekly salary: $ 4 005 Age: 19 Height: 6'5" / 196 cm Potential: starter
Norihisa Ushio Weekly salary: $ 5 162 Age: 21 Height: 6'2" / 188 cm Potential: perennial allstar
Kohichi Matsuo Weekly salary: $ 3 878 Age: 18 Height: 6'2" / 188 cm Potential: allstar
Hisanobu Mitsuharu Weekly salary: $ 3 486 Age: 18 Height: 6'9" / 206 cm Potential: superstar
Noritada Konoe Weekly salary: $ 3 398 Age: 18 Height: 6'0" / 183 cm Potential: allstar

Jotaro and Norihisa are original team players and Noritada is my draft pick.

In the end I have decided
Daisaku - great all round player, already has prominent JS and good all around skills except stamina and FT. Train.
Jotaro - has 4 stats at strong already but that potential is a long term killer. No.
Norihisa - the pitiful JR is a turn off and the age is more. No.
Kohichi - these last 3 could go either way but he has atrocious passing and they will have to play PG to train. No.
Hisanobu - the height is a huge problem but the potential means he can one day be JBBL standard. Train.
Noritada - the worst of my trainees, inept OD, but at 6'0" he will train fast and as my draft pick I will benefit. Train.

I would love to hear from some of the experts so I will know if I have made the right choices. I hope one day at least one of them can make the U21 national team.

Hi Lord Toranaga,

There're many way to look at this and my perspective isn't always the best method.

Daisaku - great all round player, already has prominent JS and good all around skills except stamina and FT. Train.

good - all round players are good to train.

Jotaro - has 4 stats at strong already but that potential is a long term killer. No.

maybe not long term but if you build him to be all rounded or a specialist you can sell for money in the intermediate term.

Norihisa - the pitiful JR is a turn off and the age is more. No.

correct.

Kohichi - these last 3 could go either way but he has atrocious passing and they will have to play PG to train. No.

right choice. OD and PAssing is very hard to train, you rather have your trainee from average and above.

Hisanobu - the height is a huge problem but the potential means he can one day be JBBL standard. Train.

if he has good inside, you might want to turn him into a power forward. I'd give him 3 seasons outside first then 3 seasons inside.

Noritada - the worst of my trainees, inept OD, but at 6'0" he will train fast and as my draft pick I will benefit. Train.

don't train any guard that is below respectable in OD. it will waste your time.


Last edited by sgt.sagara at 2/21/2011 7:42:17 AM

Lord Toranga,

As far as U21 ambitions go, I think the best thing for you to do is to decide on the 3 players above you want to commit to for the best interest of your own team and get really focused on training them. U21 will come to those players as a result of that commitment.

I also agree with sgt.sagara's comment:

OD and PAssing is very hard to train, you rather have your trainee from average and above.

I would probably add Jump range to that as well. JS, HD, DR are easy to train so try to get a solid starting point in the more difficult attributes.

according to me, defense is the first skill to train and maximise. Stamina is very important for a trainee to play the whole 48 minutes. Stamina about mediocre and above is good.

Thanks to everyone for their kind words and wisdom. We will do everything you all say except, we will train Noritada, yes he is an inept defender but he is our first draft pick ever and we want to make him at least decent. For the rest of the season we will train only stamina, some passing then OD.

Noritada will only play in the scrimmage so we do not mind his bad defence.

Noritada Konoe (18297019) Small Forward
Weekly salary: $ 3 398
Role: draws a paycheck
(BuzzerBeta)
DMI: 56300
Age: 18
Height: 6'0" / 183 cm
Potential: allstar
Game Shape: proficient
Jump Shot: prominent ↑ Jump Range: strong
Outside Def.: inept Handling: inept
Driving: respectable Passing: awful
Inside Shot: awful Inside Def.: average
Rebounding: atrocious Shot Blocking: inept
Stamina: mediocre Free Throw: strong
Experience: atrocious

It will be a long project but we will make a player out of him. He can now score a little. Next he shall learn to pass just one pop. Then it shall be OD. We hope in the 5 weeks he can get 3 pops so he shall start next season respectable.

So we hope this is him now + 5 pops

Noritada Konoe (18297019) Shooting Guard
Weekly salary: $ 6 413
Age: 19
Height: 6'0" / 183 cm
Potential: allstar
Jump Shot: prominent Jump Range: strong
Outside Def.: respectable ↑ Handling: inept
Driving: respectable Passing: inept
Inside Shot: awful Inside Def.: average
Rebounding: atrocious Shot Blocking: inept
Stamina: average Free Throw: strong

+ 9 pops =

Noritada Konoe (18297019) Shooting Guard
Weekly salary: $ 14 417
Age: 20
Height: 6'0" / 183 cm
Potential: allstar
Jump Shot: sensational ↑ Jump Range: prominent
Outside Def.: prominent Handling: inept
Driving: respectable Passing: mediocre
Inside Shot: awful Inside Def.: average
Rebounding: atrocious Shot Blocking: inept
Stamina: respectable Free Throw: strong

+ 9 pops =

Noritada Konoe (18297019) Shooting Guard
Weekly salary: $ 25 879
Age: 21
Height: 6'0" / 183 cm
Potential: allstar
Jump Shot: wondrous ↑ Jump Range: prolific
Outside Def.: sensational Handling: mediocre
Driving: strong Passing: average
Inside Shot: awful Inside Def.: average
Rebounding: atrocious Shot Blocking: inept
Stamina: strong Free Throw: strong

That looks like a player I would like to have. I'm sure he will be behind this, bad minutes, injuries, mistakes, but this is my aim!

Last edited by Lord Toranaga at 2/28/2011 8:30:06 AM

How typical, just in time for our game Sapporo Fighters buys a $1,000,000 player. Probably worth more than my entire roster put together. My most expensive player cost 1/4 of that.

Kimochi warui.

Aaaah... yeah, I saw that too. He was 'telling' us in chat that he was going to win our division. He took it very badly when I said that I thought Shikoku was a better team - basically I was told my team sucked.
Oh well.


Still... to be honest, I have no problem with someone buying a player at this time. It's something available to all of us.
But me? I'm just looking to actually MAKE the playoffs - I'd consider that a real step (from finishing dead last in the last season!).

Last edited by malice at 3/26/2011 9:03:19 AM

I have not problem too but it is sad for us. We hoped for a home playoff game. Still now we are safe in thrid and will be knocked out in first round. We played CT with 10 enthusiasm to his TIE and still it was not close game. So our season is now over. We have our imports up for sale our "key player" for $1. We are also selling your draft pick Kohichi Matsuo much improved now a very good shooter but sad once one position training he was no4.

In our league there are rich and poor. You and I are still poor. The best we can do is compete for 3rd. We must build our arena. We will train our young players. We will look for at least one "star" who can get wins. We shall make money. Patience.

I said that, and now I won the penultimate match against Shikoku in the regular season without my star Mitsuo Shibukji.

To be honest I'm very competitive. I know in the chat I did not behaved in an appropriate way. I'm sorry

That's great! Being competitive is good and every now and then I'd love a more leveled competition. This season we may not meet but prepare for the next season. I am going all out!