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(how) Do the box +1 defences work?

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288522.33 in reply to 288522.30
Date: 7/28/2017 12:28:07 PM
white snake
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Inside box plus one to me indicates the box forms inside with four players, kinda like ol' squares in a battle, like you see in a calendar, like the Battle of Waterloo, and the plus one is then the outside defender.

I have the same opinion. My guess is that the box moves out of the way of the +1. They will still defend the area of the +1 defender, but there is still a movement of this 2-2 box.

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Date: 8/4/2017 12:53:03 PM
white snake
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Can we clarify what the Game Manual means by "Fifth defender"? What does that mean in the GE? The C? or the defender with the most ID or OD depending on which box you run?

I would say the best OD/ID/SB player. Or with other words: the best defensive player by rating (how this rating is calculated is another question)

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Date: 8/4/2017 7:57:04 PM
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I would say the best OD/ID/SB player. Or with other words: the best defensive player by rating (how this rating is calculated is another question)
I think we established beyond doubt that this is not the case with your Haek examples (where he was not picked to be the mtm guy)? I can probably prove it as well with Ma Anhui in a scrimmage later on in the season, since the difference between him and the rest of the defensive options is very big.

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288522.41 in reply to 288522.38
Date: 8/5/2017 3:12:33 AM
white snake
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I would say the best OD/ID/SB player. Or with other words: the best defensive player by rating (how this rating is calculated is another question)
I think we established beyond doubt that this is not the case with your Haek examples (where he was not picked to be the mtm guy)? I can probably prove it as well with Ma Anhui in a scrimmage later on in the season, since the difference between him and the rest of the defensive options is very big.

What? Haek was always the +1 defender. But he defended, according to the game manual, the wrong "position". That was unexpected.
If you read my examples again, you will see that Haek was every time the defender for mtm. The rest of the team build the box. So like I wrote, the best OD/ID/SB player is the +1 defender.

What I cannot say, if there is a weighting of the skills. Like for outside box +1 the skills would be weighted e. g. OD with 0.8, ID with 1.1 and SB with 1.1.

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288522.43 in reply to 288522.41
Date: 8/5/2017 5:53:10 AM
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Uhm I thought in the third example Haek (playing PG) was clearly not the choice?

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