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From: Bro_Khen

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Date: 12/22/2020 6:24:33 AM
Team Payabang
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I personally think it depends... I choose to play limited Rosters and give the max possible time I can give to my Trainees.. for faster EXP gain... I tank coz I would also like to get a High-Quality Player from Draftings... I am Pathetic by choice...

But in the future, I would love to try that too... to have just enough numbers of Players that I can Rotate properly without being penalized their GS... and if Calculated it properly... it will take 9 Players that will play 80 min over 3 games per week... that could still be 5 to 6 Players per game...

From: maktub

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Date: 12/22/2020 7:57:51 PM
Llacuabamba Angels
Prva Liga BiH
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But in reg season it's 8-12 man rotation, and main players average between 32-40 minutes. Hell even in playoff you don't often see someone playing 48 minutes, you have 6-8 man rotation, and 6-7 in elimination games.

From: barba

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Date: 12/22/2020 9:54:54 PM
Palestra Itália
II.1
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This is what I needed to see to reactivate my Supporter. Long live BB!

From: boule

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Date: 12/23/2020 5:43:18 AM
Boulettes
III.10
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3-2 zone makes reverse patient useless.




Thanks for the info. What I actually meant to say was we should be able to determine the defensive matchups by players' name. The fact that people just swap the positions of the players, make opponents' defensive matchups useless and get away with it is just ridicilous. Of course, we can't hinder managers choosing to go that way but in my opinion, it should be heavily discouraged. It is simply not realistic, therefore I am passionately against it.


It's not like pick'n roll, or any other kind of pick play, has been used for creating mismatch irl.


From: Caveman

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307591.38 in reply to 307591.37
Date: 12/23/2020 8:18:30 AM
Mağara Adamları BK
III.6
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It's not like pick'n roll, or any other kind of pick play, has been used for creating mismatch irl.



What an answer! You don't ever start the game with Yao Ming guarding Kobe and keep going with that matchup for 48 minutes, do you?


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Date: 12/23/2020 8:28:17 AM
Mağara Adamları BK
III.6
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Thank you for your efforts to improve BB.
However I do not agree to limit short roster.
Short roster is a choice of building the team same as any other roster size. Managers use this method has already suffered a higher risk of injuries and fouls and stamina decrease. From the long history of B3, only a few of champions are using short roster, which indicates that it is not a sophisticated strategy. If we simply limit it, everyone might move to 8-9 players roster. It makes the game boring as there is no diversification. One key beauty of Bb is every managers can find its own way to enjoy. There is no reason to simply limit one new strategy that is used by only a small branch of managers that is not dominating the game.


I mean, you can still have a short "diversificated" roster if you like but winning is going to be harder - just like in real life.

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Date: 12/23/2020 9:19:34 AM
Savlje BC
SKL
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outside-oriented players are still much more expensive to build than inside-oriented ones. Do you plan to fix that ?


This is exactly my concern. You can have 20IS/20JS with all around skills player for 100-130k, but if you want a player with somewhat relevant JR (let's say 14-16) while still having some supportive skills, they cost 160-200k.

This needs to be balanced out.. I have an outside oriented team right now and it's not even into some extremes, but there's no way I can build an 8man roster with their salaries.

Are there any plans to balance this out?

From: boule

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Date: 12/23/2020 9:35:49 AM
Boulettes
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It's not like pick'n roll, or any other kind of pick play, has been used for creating mismatch irl.



What an answer! You don't ever start the game with Yao Ming guarding Kobe and keep going with that matchup for 48 minutes, do you?


Yes but irl you don't have to train Kobe and irl you can still force a pick by Yao Ming. You can also change the way the center plays for example like during last season play offs series Denver-Utah.

It's not about your simplistic change matching defender-attacker chosen only by the defending coach. It's more complicated than that. Attacking side as also a say in the way the game is played.

At one stage you have also to accept that if there is no way of changing dynamically the game strategy then the strategy before the game is paramount.



Last edited by boule at 12/23/2020 9:37:34 AM

From: Caveman

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Date: 12/23/2020 10:17:19 AM
Mağara Adamları BK
III.6
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It's not about your simplistic change matching defender-attacker chosen only by the defending coach. It's more complicated than that. Attacking side as also a say in the way the game is played.



True but with the way reverse patient is utilized, this time defense has no say in it. Do whatever you want, force a switch as much as you want, in a real game Yao won't be defending Kobe all game long (and needless to say won't be the primary defensive option on Kobe).

Also a question: I was under the impression that picks, switches etc. were taken into consideration by the game engine. Am I wrong? Does it not take these into consideration?


You can also change the way the center plays for example like during last season play offs series Denver-Utah.


We can also do that here to some extent by training different skills, can't we? Do you want a ball handling, passing big like Jokic, do it. We all know that modern basketball is kinda positionless and often based on roles - like ball handler, wing, rim protector etc. and in my opinion, as of now it is kinda hard to reflect that to BB. The thing here is with reverse patient you don't assign different "roles" to players, you simply try to find a Yao-Kobe-like matchup that you can abuse all game long.


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Date: 12/23/2020 10:20:16 AM
Killers Reformed
Ligat Ha'al
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I guess we'll never know since Marin is back in his cave..

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