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Date: 7/26/2016 1:14:22 PM
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(90551628) Lost to a bunch of old guys... shouldn't it be at least closer ( I rested my starting PG and played TIE but I have this way much better bench and stats tell me I should have won)

From: Siwy

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Date: 7/27/2016 5:25:00 AM
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Firstly, I have found this game (90302543) during B3 prediction contest research... Impressive.

Secondly, Nemanja Krstanovic, I think that benching your SF was in fact much more important factor. He's the most important player in your offense, and you decided to play with much weaker player without gameshape instead of him. Therefore you didn't have a good outside shooter, and maybe that's why your outside was much weaker than your rival's. Probably you had too little JS to beat his OD... which in fact isn't so strong compared to his attack.
What is more, I believe, that in this kind of teams (outside tactics and total lack of IS) the IS level doesn't matter anymore, because most of the shots will be based on enormous JS. But it's just my observation. Next time try to use as much OD, as you can, at outside positions (PG to SF), beacuse it helps to deal with that kind of danger.

Leniwy, stary, wyliniały kocur. Czasem jeszcze zerknie na polskie tłumaczenia.
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251520.336 in reply to 251520.335
Date: 8/16/2016 6:39:03 AM
Kira Kira Koseki
II.3
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Second Team:
Yubi Yubi
(91663743)

It is absolutely... unbelievable that a season in which I have dominated, losing only one game to my closest rivals away from home, could be derailed in such a way by a team that went 11-11, was playing away, and missed a GDP call.

It's ridiculous, I should have cruised to my 2nd title and been able to gear up for a B3 run next season, instead I haven't even made the conference finals.

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Date: 8/16/2016 11:44:17 AM
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4 0:19 85 — 85 L. Valtolina (H) gets off a great pass to B. Rosentorp (H). B. Rosentorp (H) goes up strong for an inside shot. Scored.
4 0:19 85 — 85 The shot was assisted by L. Valtolina (H).
4 0:12 85 — 85 Ball stolen by A. Yeng Chun (H).
4 0:01 85 — 85 A. Yeng Chun (H) launches a three-pointer from another zip-code under pressure from C. Jing Chu (A). Shot missed.
4 0:01 85 — 85 The defensive rebound is snapped up by L. Heng Lai (A).
4 0:00 85 — 85 C. Jing Chu (A) goes baseline and tries a reverse lay-up
4 0:00 85 — 85 A. Yeng Chun (H) is called for a shooting foul.
4 0:00 85 — 85 Free throw missed by C. Jing Chu (A).
4 0:00 85 — 85 Substitution at C: S. Dailey (H) for B. Rosentorp (H).
4 0:00 85 — 85 F. Ping wai (A) substituted for N. Pérez (A) at PG.
4 0:00 86 — 85 C. Jing Chu (A)'s free throw attempt is up and good.
4 0:00 86 — 85 End of period.

even though i won, but these plays are damn impossible. should i report for bugs?
(91666571)

Champions are those who kept fighting till the end. Even if we lost, we are still the Champion. "The Queen - We Are The Champions"
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Date: 8/16/2016 12:52:26 PM
Kira Kira Koseki
II.3
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Second Team:
Yubi Yubi
With the players I had on the court, Motion was one of my strongest offensive options. And the effort difference was the same as the last league game that I won by 17 against my nearest rivals who went 20-2 to my 21-1.

I have not seen such an inexplicably poor performance from my team since the time I got blown out on opening night in Season 32 with a team that actually went on to win the ABBL championship; (85782133)

From: Siwy

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Date: 8/16/2016 2:14:15 PM
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I'm not sure, but it looks like not-multiskill build of your C may be the only reason why he underperformed in defense. PF seems to be weaker than his matchup and I believe, that this is quite important factor in LI. With that tactic, he needed to win inside matchups to have bigger chances in this game, and he managed to do that.

Last edited by Siwy at 8/16/2016 2:14:34 PM

Leniwy, stary, wyliniały kocur. Czasem jeszcze zerknie na polskie tłumaczenia.
From: Knecht
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Date: 8/23/2016 6:07:50 PM
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Thats a good one. ID does nothing against LI.

Of course he won because of free throws.

Größter Knecht aller Zeiten aka His Excellency aka President for Life aka Field Marshal Al Hadji aka Lord of All the Beasts of the Earth and Fishes of the Seas aka aka Conqueror of the Buzzerbeater Empire in Europe in General and Austria in Particular
From: Siwy

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251520.342 in reply to 251520.341
Date: 8/24/2016 3:14:56 AM
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>finds a game, where both teams used 2-3 zone, and one of them won, because its OD was less destroyed by 2-3 than other teams'
>sees prodigious rating in team's inside defense
>ignores facts which may suggest, that 2-3 was wrong there, not ID: that most of shots were made by SG and SF, that the percentage of 3FG made suggests that JS/JR were the key factor
>ignores fact, which often doesn't allow to make right conclusions - game was in garbage time from last minute of 3th quarter, so we don't know the true team ratings for this game (In fact, after 3 quarters the boxscore suggests even more that Dennis Scott's Magic won, because it avoided 2-3 zone by giving the most of shots to SG/SF)
>makes a conclusion, even if he shouldn't due to reasons ignored by him in last point
>of course it's not a "2-3 sucks" conclusion
>it's a "ID sucks" conclusion
>SB rulez

The verification of thesis before putting them doesn't hurt.

Last edited by Siwy at 8/24/2016 3:17:32 AM

Leniwy, stary, wyliniały kocur. Czasem jeszcze zerknie na polskie tłumaczenia.
From: Knecht

To: Siwy
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Date: 8/24/2016 6:01:10 AM
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> ignores the fact that super cool GDP sucks donkey duck

The verification of the antithesis after putting them doesn't help. (I do not know what this sentence means)

Größter Knecht aller Zeiten aka His Excellency aka President for Life aka Field Marshal Al Hadji aka Lord of All the Beasts of the Earth and Fishes of the Seas aka aka Conqueror of the Buzzerbeater Empire in Europe in General and Austria in Particular
From: Knecht

To: Siwy
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Date: 8/24/2016 7:39:03 AM
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>ignores facts which may suggest, that 2-3 was wrong there, not ID: that most of shots were made by SG and SF, that the percentage of 3FG made suggests that JS/JR were the key factor


http://www.buzzerbeater.com/match/91796874/reportmatch.aspx?realTime=720

first quarter decided the game, just look how many "JS/JR"-type shots have been taken. If the shot chart does not show like 95% of attempts that - by common knowledge - would be considered "inside", we have to redefine how inside/outside, JS/JR and IS have to be understood.

The calibration of the definition similar taking tactic must be considered exactly.

Größter Knecht aller Zeiten aka His Excellency aka President for Life aka Field Marshal Al Hadji aka Lord of All the Beasts of the Earth and Fishes of the Seas aka aka Conqueror of the Buzzerbeater Empire in Europe in General and Austria in Particular
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