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152075.335 in reply to 152075.333
Date: 8/19/2010 2:50:37 AM
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this game is about improving your team and ofc good managers are prefered, but lets get realistic - we all have lives and a game that takes 2-3 years and constantly sitting online scaning transfers list just to find little improvement in my opinion is doomed. if you can afford that, I would recommend you do some reasearch on poker or play WOW. BB has one huge advantage above HT is very dynamic training and promotion system. and thats a good thing, but this deflation makes game a little static. which is a bit sad and boring at same time. stagnation kills enthusiasm!


I bet somebody will answer to your post saying "well, but all the teams in the same league are in the same conditions. Cope with it."

Me, I think you're right. If I want to play a game of almost pure trading, I play Monopoly.

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152075.336 in reply to 152075.333
Date: 8/19/2010 2:52:01 AM
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i think that "unfair" is a poor choice of word for describing the problem of unbalanced economies
i'd rather complain about it saying it's "something that makes the game less fun for a big chunk of users"


I think its the best sentense int this thread.

As I think is a bit absurd, that big country should get something super duper extra above smaller country. but on the other hand it gets pretty boring, when your team stops and there is little room for improvement. and I think this game is about improving your team and ofc good managers are prefered, but lets get realistic - we all have lives and a game that takes 2-3 years and constantly sitting online scaning transfers list just to find little improvement in my opinion is doomed. if you can afford that, I would recommend you do some reasearch on poker or play WOW. BB has one huge advantage above HT is very dynamic training and promotion system. and thats a good thing, but this deflation makes game a little static. which is a bit sad and boring at same time. stagnation kills enthusiasm!

What did you say? We are not saying that big country should get something super extras above smaller country, we are saying that the world economy should be more balanced cause if I'm in Italy and i'd just started, i start with a budget of 300k, I earn 50k weekly and when the season finish i have 800k if i didn't buy any player for my team. Instead if i start (for exemple) in Barbados, where there are only 2-3 real teams and I start from first division, I start with 300k, earn 200k cause i'm in first division and in the end of the season i have 3M... It's fair for you? In my opinion the earning must be balanced about the nation league, with that of alloy.

Last edited by Zio Gabibbescio™ at 8/19/2010 2:52:36 AM

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152075.337 in reply to 152075.336
Date: 8/19/2010 3:05:08 AM
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I've read a lot of posts in this thread that keep saying that you need to operate at near 0 income to compete in your league. That is absolute rubbish. I started in div 4 in my first season and won my league easily while making about 80k profit a week. Then in my second season I was in div 3 and I managed to come first in my league and win the finals to promote and I was making about 120k a week. Now I am in div 2 and while I struggled for the first 4 weeks, I have now got a solid team together and have won most of my recent games. And I am still making 175k a week, and I would be making a lot more than that if I had a bigger arena. If you buy the right players, and manage your team well then you can easily dominate your league while making a decent profit.
The top team in my league is making about 130k profit per week and is dominating, it shows that you don't need to have 0 profit to compete, you just have to be smart about it.

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152075.338 in reply to 152075.337
Date: 8/19/2010 3:10:46 AM
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You started by IV, I started by VI.

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152075.339 in reply to 152075.334
Date: 8/19/2010 3:11:01 AM
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Every season there are promotions and relegations, and, you know, a big part of the teams relegated from, let's say, III are the sema teams that were promoted from IV at the end of the previous season.
Guess why? Because to get promoted I have to almost drain my bank account (I'll repeat, maybe this time somebody will understand) because competition is high so you need a richer roster, and incomes are just enough to avoid bankrupcy, so next season I will not have enough money to make the changes to the roster that would permit me to avoid relegation.


that's not true. i looked your league and there are examples of teams on the way to playoffs after promotion to III. (26861). i looked into other leagues, and shortly i found another example: (47629). he made semi-finals after promoting from iv, and he'll probably make the playoffs this season too. i bet theres more teams like that. so nothing is impossible. and it would not surprise me if there would be a team in your so called highly competitive country, that would promote from IV to II in two seasons.

Last edited by Rycka at 8/19/2010 3:11:34 AM

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152075.340 in reply to 152075.339
Date: 8/19/2010 3:27:50 AM
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You're just half-right. Better said, you found an example of what you a re saying and aonther of what I'm saying. This team (26861) passed the last four seasons going up and down from III to IV, and that's axactly what I was saying. The exeption is the other team...

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152075.341 in reply to 152075.337
Date: 8/19/2010 3:41:17 AM
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sorry man but your example isn't right....
Your roster cap is (more and less) 200k and you play in II division of your country...in italy maybe you finish 6/8th in a third division with that salary range...i repeat maybe,in the best option you arrive in play out zone.
So ,if we play using your style,we 'll never have the incomes you can get playng in your country...
Because ,and i 'm sure you know that thing, if you don't win,people don't come to palace,less money and so on....

My post is only to say that you can't compare your nation (500 users) with our nation ( 5000 users) because the level is very different and all about economy too...
But about your style of play,i can say you..you play well with good strategy but we can't use ( or we can use but in 2 season we'll finish in low league and it's not so funnyPP )


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152075.342 in reply to 152075.340
Date: 8/19/2010 3:49:10 AM
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Yes, you can find example for anything, especially negative one. But his example shows that it's possible to manage team in successful way. Your one only shows that there are managers which are not able to do it.

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152075.343 in reply to 152075.337
Date: 8/19/2010 3:50:16 AM
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Like some people said you, you understimates spain or Italy potencial. In my league (4º division in spain) there are 3-4 teams which pay higher salaries than you. And probably have half the incomes you have. No comapison is posible there.

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152075.344 in reply to 152075.332
Date: 8/19/2010 3:54:12 AM
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But how many new BB countries do you expect if there are 98 old at the moment?

Edit: I answered the question about Big and Small countries not question about old and new if you read cerafully. So I expected it was meant that if there is biggest country of 6 level, incomes for any present country with 4 level should be cut so that level I equals level III of biggest country etc. And it would cause a mismatch.

Last edited by rwystyrk at 8/19/2010 4:03:06 AM

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152075.345 in reply to 152075.342
Date: 8/19/2010 4:17:09 AM
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You know, everyone of us have a life out of BB. There are players who can sit in front of the Pc ten hours and find the right players at the right price, and there's people who tries to give the game as much spare time as possible, but they will never have enough time to parse the market with a comb to find the right player at the right price. I accept to lose matches and players from people who's got much time to play, but It's harder to accept to lose players on the market (that is, as someone said before, global), from people who just don't have to search too much because can spend ten times the money I can making the tenth part of efforts (managing money and trying to win games) than me.

Anyway, talking about managers who are able to succeed and others who can't (true thing, but you said a little bit too generically for my taste) wanna swap teams for a season? Then you will have tried to live in my shoes and you can judge what's simple and what's hard.

That said, I'm off, I start getting bored; we're not going anywhere, better for me to go look around on the TL trying to find an affordable player.

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