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Every season there are promotions and relegations, and, you know, a big part of the teams relegated from, let's say, III are the sema teams that were promoted from IV at the end of the previous season.
Guess why? Because to get promoted I have to almost drain my bank account (I'll repeat, maybe this time somebody will understand) because competition is high so you need a richer roster, and incomes are just enough to avoid bankrupcy, so next season I will not have enough money to make the changes to the roster that would permit me to avoid relegation.

that's not true. i looked your league and there are examples of teams on the way to playoffs after promotion to III. (26861). i looked into other leagues, and shortly i found another example: (47629). he made semi-finals after promoting from iv, and he'll probably make the playoffs this season too. i bet theres more teams like that. so nothing is impossible. and it would not surprise me if there would be a team in your so called highly competitive country, that would promote from IV to II in two seasons.

Last edited by Rycka at 8/19/2010 3:11:34 AM

You're just half-right. Better said, you found an example of what you a re saying and aonther of what I'm saying. This team (26861) passed the last four seasons going up and down from III to IV, and that's axactly what I was saying. The exeption is the other team...

sorry man but your example isn't right....
Your roster cap is (more and less) 200k and you play in II division of your country...in italy maybe you finish 6/8th in a third division with that salary range...i repeat maybe,in the best option you arrive in play out zone.
So ,if we play using your style,we 'll never have the incomes you can get playng in your country...
Because ,and i 'm sure you know that thing, if you don't win,people don't come to palace,less money and so on....

My post is only to say that you can't compare your nation (500 users) with our nation ( 5000 users) because the level is very different and all about economy too...
But about your style of play,i can say you..you play well with good strategy but we can't use ( or we can use but in 2 season we'll finish in low league and it's not so funnyPP )

Yes, you can find example for anything, especially negative one. But his example shows that it's possible to manage team in successful way. Your one only shows that there are managers which are not able to do it.

Like some people said you, you understimates spain or Italy potencial. In my league (4º division in spain) there are 3-4 teams which pay higher salaries than you. And probably have half the incomes you have. No comapison is posible there.

But how many new BB countries do you expect if there are 98 old at the moment?

Edit: I answered the question about Big and Small countries not question about old and new if you read cerafully. So I expected it was meant that if there is biggest country of 6 level, incomes for any present country with 4 level should be cut so that level I equals level III of biggest country etc. And it would cause a mismatch.

Last edited by rwystyrk at 8/19/2010 4:03:06 AM

You know, everyone of us have a life out of BB. There are players who can sit in front of the Pc ten hours and find the right players at the right price, and there's people who tries to give the game as much spare time as possible, but they will never have enough time to parse the market with a comb to find the right player at the right price. I accept to lose matches and players from people who's got much time to play, but It's harder to accept to lose players on the market (that is, as someone said before, global), from people who just don't have to search too much because can spend ten times the money I can making the tenth part of efforts (managing money and trying to win games) than me.

Anyway, talking about managers who are able to succeed and others who can't (true thing, but you said a little bit too generically for my taste) wanna swap teams for a season? Then you will have tried to live in my shoes and you can judge what's simple and what's hard.

That said, I'm off, I start getting bored; we're not going anywhere, better for me to go look around on the TL trying to find an affordable player.

I undestand your situation but I don't agree it's caused by big and small countries.
Yes, probably you have small budget and teams in lower divisions should be able to have higher budget than they have now, but it's not possible to do it know because of attendance cap.
What I suggest it's lowering gaps in attendance cap for different levels of league.
Differences in size of country should be balanced by merchandise and TV contracts which depends on player's quality. There is only question if difference in merchandise and TV contracts is high enough at the moment (I don't know).

I undestand your situation but I don't agree it's caused by big and small countries.
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It's caused by the different level of competition in the various countries,as we are saying in all the thread.
A country could be relatively small but however very competitive....but in BB doesn't happen unfortunately

What I suggest it's lowering gaps in attendance cap for different levels of league

What i suggest it's to lowering gaps between divisions in a same country,in a different way for the various countries.If in the X few competitive nation the difference between the incomes of I and III division is 50%,in a Y more competitive country the difference should be 30% for example,because while in the X nation the team that starts from the lower divisions can have the possibility to program their future and have "period of arrangements" while go up through the divisions and stabilized their position because of the awful competition, when they go up, still having the room to grow up;in the Y nation the teaam that starts from the lower division at the time doesn't have these possibilites,or at least can't have all the strategies available

is it normal, that game is reaching point, where NT players only kept by farms? equilibrium is OK, but this deflation is no imho. I dont see how market was wrong, when super players costed 10-15M - top tier teams were spending theyr money on players they are not capabale of training due to competition and lower tier team could actually hit jackpot after training couple of great NT capable guys.