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More assumptions. You need to stop assuming people only buy level 6 or 7 trainers. Most people don't specifically because there aren't that many. Even if you consider a 20k average per week (very fair for a lvl 4 trainer) and 100k every 2 seasons to buy a new lvl 4 trainer you are looking at 350k per season (hence ~120k per trainee). In the 4 seasons it took him to go from 500k to 3+ million he would have reasonably cost inside 500k. That's a 2+ million net profit if you train that player. My own player was ALSO bought for 500k and is every bit as good as the guy I linked.

Now, I'm pretty sure to build HoF/ATG with 150+ TSP you need high level trainers, because you might not have enough training time with a lower level trainer to cap the player. Same with that Mordor's guard with 20 IS, you will run out of time without a very high level trainer, but up to MVP and 125-130TSP it is pure idiocy to think people spend millions in training.

Look, it not that I don't understand what you say, I do. I'm honestly telling you it's plain rubbish, founded on baseless assumptions.

THe profit is in MIDLEVEL palyers...you said 108TSP....that sounds like MIDLEVEL. That is not high TSP.

108 at 22yo nowhere near the cap, is not midlevel. You can easily hit 130+ if the potential is high enough. And yes, taking the guy from 108 to 130 requires effort.

We are saying the same thing in this.

No we are not, but probably you're just not able to understand this.

I should remember to dumb it down a bit for you. My bad!!!

Well I don't see you using pictures which would be the immediate next step for you. I would kindly remind you to refresh your basic math and invite you to prove your loony theories in practice instead of assuming and speculating and blabbing and blabbing. The top 2 managers in this game (one of which was at the top of this game when it reached its peak) already told you off. What are you waiting for? Just go and prove everyone else wrong, but for Pete's sake, stop embarrassing yourself.


Last edited by Lemonshine at 11/6/2015 6:50:29 PM

You both may be right; or you both may be wrong, I don't really know. But what I do know is that as you spend your time pi55ing in each other's cuff, the players you are talking about are from a different planet from the one most of the users of this game -- managers of middle and lower level teams -- are playing in.

Maybe that is the fundamental underlying problem forming the foundation of every problem this game faces. Buzzerbeater is designed, re-coded and perpetually tweaked for the few, while the many get nothing but the hind teat.

Think about that.

Also sorry, I just had to add, even 130, I have my doubts you can hit that level with a cheap trainer and cheap trainee. REAL DOUBTS. I would say 120 is about as good as you get for L5 and most are gonna tap out at around 115.

What part in 108 and 22 don't you understand? Do you really need pictures? This is exactly why nobody cares about your opinions.

According you your dumb logic a player with 158+ TSP would be impossible to build with any kind of trainer. Well it has been built, not by you of course, since you're really only just talk, and the manager who built that player is still in the game.

Just stop telling people they can't build 130 TSP players without level 6 or 7 trainers. That just dumb and factually incorrect. It takes LONGER but you get there. If you want a 150 TSP guy (something you never achieved, but others have and if you weren't so ignorant you'd know that also one of those top B3 players you ranted about also made one from scratch...) then yes you need a high level trainer because otherwise you won't be able to fit enough pops and cap him before training becomes too slow.

You really should stop blaming and others for YOUR shortcomings

Last edited by Lemonshine at 11/7/2015 5:46:49 AM

Dude, the guy I linked, that's perfectly possible to get there with a lvl 4 trainer. My trainee (the 108 one) spawned at 19 and I only ever used a lvl 4 trainer. You just need the commitment and understanding of how training works. And you need to stop listening to the rants by the guy who lives on a tree.

If you train the skills in the correct order to set up the elastic effect you can get pops reliably. 158 total skills is a monster achievement and it takes at least 12 seasons to get there and even with a top class trainer it would be extremely hard. However, salary efficient players with a enough TSP (say 115-120)? That everybody can do.

Just download coach parrot and run some simulations with your trainees.

Lemon, time will tell. Every day you run your team and I run mine and the results are plain as day obvious.

Let's see: Trainerman has 2 tanking teams, for him success is not winning but building a large arena faster and can't understand that 'skill' in this game involves understanding of tactics, management of GS and Enth. I have no doubt I can achieve better than such limited manager with an equal or inferior team. Oh and he only ever proved himself in one of the smallest nations in BB with little to no competition.

Me: first season in D1 in my country and I'm in the finals. I bought ONE player (130k salary) from my D2 promotion because I had no money. Definitely underachieved! In Utopia, where my focus is training (as many other guys), I'm still in the run to win the finals with 170k salary against a team who has 240k (today I threw the second game because I wanted to give 48+ training to 3 players).

Dude, seriously stop embarrassing yourself. To use Saur0n's words:

Your are writing nonsence br, dont get me wrong, its not personal, but you dont know anything about BB...

Tell us what your achievements are in your long history in BB. Do tell us. And when you do, just remember how you said that in smaller nations it is easier to accomplish anything, because I will be there to remind you of that and ridicule you.

Last edited by Lemonshine at 11/7/2015 6:24:40 AM