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152075.344 in reply to 152075.332
Date: 8/19/2010 3:54:12 AM
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But how many new BB countries do you expect if there are 98 old at the moment?

Edit: I answered the question about Big and Small countries not question about old and new if you read cerafully. So I expected it was meant that if there is biggest country of 6 level, incomes for any present country with 4 level should be cut so that level I equals level III of biggest country etc. And it would cause a mismatch.

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152075.345 in reply to 152075.342
Date: 8/19/2010 4:17:09 AM
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You know, everyone of us have a life out of BB. There are players who can sit in front of the Pc ten hours and find the right players at the right price, and there's people who tries to give the game as much spare time as possible, but they will never have enough time to parse the market with a comb to find the right player at the right price. I accept to lose matches and players from people who's got much time to play, but It's harder to accept to lose players on the market (that is, as someone said before, global), from people who just don't have to search too much because can spend ten times the money I can making the tenth part of efforts (managing money and trying to win games) than me.

Anyway, talking about managers who are able to succeed and others who can't (true thing, but you said a little bit too generically for my taste) wanna swap teams for a season? Then you will have tried to live in my shoes and you can judge what's simple and what's hard.

That said, I'm off, I start getting bored; we're not going anywhere, better for me to go look around on the TL trying to find an affordable player.

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152075.346 in reply to 152075.345
Date: 8/19/2010 4:28:58 AM
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I undestand your situation but I don't agree it's caused by big and small countries.
Yes, probably you have small budget and teams in lower divisions should be able to have higher budget than they have now, but it's not possible to do it know because of attendance cap.
What I suggest it's lowering gaps in attendance cap for different levels of league.
Differences in size of country should be balanced by merchandise and TV contracts which depends on player's quality. There is only question if difference in merchandise and TV contracts is high enough at the moment (I don't know).

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152075.348 in reply to 152075.346
Date: 8/19/2010 4:58:30 AM
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I undestand your situation but I don't agree it's caused by big and small countries.
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It's caused by the different level of competition in the various countries,as we are saying in all the thread.
A country could be relatively small but however very competitive....but in BB doesn't happen unfortunately

What I suggest it's lowering gaps in attendance cap for different levels of league

What i suggest it's to lowering gaps between divisions in a same country,in a different way for the various countries.If in the X few competitive nation the difference between the incomes of I and III division is 50%,in a Y more competitive country the difference should be 30% for example,because while in the X nation the team that starts from the lower divisions can have the possibility to program their future and have "period of arrangements" while go up through the divisions and stabilized their position because of the awful competition, when they go up, still having the room to grow up;in the Y nation the teaam that starts from the lower division at the time doesn't have these possibilites,or at least can't have all the strategies available

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152075.349 in reply to 152075.347
Date: 8/19/2010 5:10:24 AM
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is it normal, that game is reaching point, where NT players only kept by farms? equilibrium is OK, but this deflation is no imho. I dont see how market was wrong, when super players costed 10-15M - top tier teams were spending theyr money on players they are not capabale of training due to competition and lower tier team could actually hit jackpot after training couple of great NT capable guys.

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152075.350 in reply to 152075.341
Date: 8/19/2010 5:15:51 AM
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My roster cap is closer to 500k. I just only use 200k of it.
So my point is that I could spend 500k in salaries, but I don't need to, and so I get to keep some profit each week to try and improve.

I'm not saying the economy is the same, I'm just saying that I think that there would be a way to run a team effectively and still make a profit :)

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152075.351 in reply to 152075.338
Date: 8/19/2010 5:17:42 AM
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You started by IV, I started by VI.


So you mean that until you are in div 4 you make less profit than I do initially because I start in div 4?

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152075.352 in reply to 152075.348
Date: 8/19/2010 5:40:34 AM
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I think we both wrote very similar suggestion. But in your I can't find which kind of income would you like to use to make differencies.
As I wrote before I think there shouldn't be any difference of formula for incomes maybe for division III or IV and lower (it doesn't mean no difference in real incomes, the team/league with better values of variables for formula would have higher incomes). Than every team in Div III and lower can compete on TL with any other team Div III team all around the world. If there is weaker Div III in some smaller country, the teams would gain less money on merchandise and TV contracts.

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152075.354 in reply to 152075.346
Date: 8/19/2010 5:42:21 AM
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Hey, I was not proposing a solution, I'm nobody how could I do a thing like that! I was just trying to make people see that there's a problem... and trying to explain to people answering every post with the same sentence ("all teams in your league are in the same condition, so why whine?") that the problem is not in the league itself, it's in the market and in the impossibility to grow as a team at the same speed we grow as managers.

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