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Exactly. If your way of playing until now doesn't fit the new rules, just adapt your strategy, and stop expecting it will be the other way around.

We have yet to witness how the new system for attendance will function, so predicting the end of the game and of the world as we know it is, at best, childish.

well, i'm just speaking about the italian situation, i know only that situation. but, if the world cup champion country think what i wrote, i believe something is going wrong, don't you?

The Italian situation is nothing special, other than they are one of the bigger countries. Most of the teams in the higher divisions are playing since season 1 or 2, so they probably already have a bigger arena, or at least they could have since they are playing a few seasons longer than the teams in the smaller countries.
So in this case the Italians are the ones who won't be hurt that much by the changes compared to 'starting' teams.

And don't use the world champion as a false authority please haha ;)

I think your nearly 100% should be nearly 10%, that would be a better guess imo.


Last edited by BB-Patrick at 8/9/2008 10:15:01 AM

And don't use the world champion as a false authority please haha ;)
is it false?

I think your nearly 100% should be nearly 10%, that would be a better gues imo.
uhm...let me think...no. i know that because i regularly speak with a lot of manager from DI and DII in italy.

^_^

i think the purpose of the game is to win the first division, right? why a lot of people, i'd say nearly 100% of the player in the II division, don't want to get promoted to the DI ? i think, just wondering, something is going really wrong with this game...

and it's the same with the people from III division to the II.

i hope i'm wrong thinnking about that, but i'm quite sure i'm not.

I don't know how things are over in Italy, but I'm in USA II.1 and those clubs are trying pretty hard to get to the NBBA.

Steve
Bruins

yes, i was speaking about italy, my mistake, sorry ^_^

just in case you didn't know yet, there is a world beyond the borders of Italia.

We have about 85 countries in BB right now, lets say the average amount of teams in D2 is 40. That's a total of 3400 teams. Italia got 62 D2 teams, that's about 2% of the total. So I wouldn't say the opinion of the Italian teams is the same as the opinion of the 'world'.

So if we assume 100% of the Italian D2 teams don't want to promote (which I'm really questioning), even then that's only 2% of all the D2 teams around, that's quite a long way to 100% total.

But hey enough said about this, lets go back on topic ;)

yea i know, i said that in the last replies, i wanted to say italy, not the whole world.

anyway let's see in the close future. i might be wrong, as well as you might ^_^

And I know the Italian situation is just the same as anywhere else: not entirely known what the effects are going to be... Has it ever crossed the mind of all you DII and lower managers that by promoting your season ticket sales will explode?

the problem of many italian top teams is they never expanded their arena (at least not much) saying "it's useless" so those changes caught them off guard

considering the current way the attendance is calculated not expanding much the arena wasn't a wrong decision, because italy's top division is so equilibrated (does this word exist? :P) every team loses many matches

however i believe a promotion is always welcome

And the rise in player prices caught me completly off guard, otherwise I would have invested all my money in players (perhaps stack my roster with 20-25 of them). I could have sold them the past week and build a big arena that would fit the changes of next season...
What you are saying sums up this complete discussion: if you have invested all your money in 1 part of the game (players) because that was the best way to play it, your current feeling will be 1 of injustice. There are 2 options from there: keep on moaning how unjust this all is, or handle it and adept to the new situation. There are many ways in which DI en DII can make enough cash to enlarge their arena's (prices on the TL are way up there, you know?).
If the problem for all managers in a division or a country is the same, then the solution is as well! The fastest to adept are the ones that will come out on top. I am not saying that selling (bench) players to enlarge your stadion is THE answer, but if it is, and everybody in a certain division does it, then the level of competition with the other managers in that division will remain the same. The managers who wouldn't sell in this case will eventualy fall behind: they will have less income from spectators and less options to expand or buy new players...
But untill we know how the changes will work out we can only speculate on what is going to happen. Just a couple of weeks, then we can make plans on how to cope with them :)

I haven't been bankrupt yet, nor do I plan to but if it happens, it happens. Before it does, though, there are players to sell, staff to fire and rehire, and ticket prices to fenagle. If you go bankrupt in this game either you are making some really silly moves as General Manager or you are not trying.

well, two cents for Verrinho
He means that the competition in some countries (not only in Italy) is very hard and to keep the level high you must spend a lot of money buying players and paying them the salaries. I will not promote in first division but I'm already at the break even point, in the meantime there are countries where you can see bots in the first division, that's a point that has to be discussed but just to close my post, I'm not so worried about these changes, even if I think there will be a lot of teams that will continue to make tons of money (see above why)