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And I know the Italian situation is just the same as anywhere else: not entirely known what the effects are going to be... Has it ever crossed the mind of all you DII and lower managers that by promoting your season ticket sales will explode?

the problem of many italian top teams is they never expanded their arena (at least not much) saying "it's useless" so those changes caught them off guard

considering the current way the attendance is calculated not expanding much the arena wasn't a wrong decision, because italy's top division is so equilibrated (does this word exist? :P) every team loses many matches

however i believe a promotion is always welcome

And the rise in player prices caught me completly off guard, otherwise I would have invested all my money in players (perhaps stack my roster with 20-25 of them). I could have sold them the past week and build a big arena that would fit the changes of next season...
What you are saying sums up this complete discussion: if you have invested all your money in 1 part of the game (players) because that was the best way to play it, your current feeling will be 1 of injustice. There are 2 options from there: keep on moaning how unjust this all is, or handle it and adept to the new situation. There are many ways in which DI en DII can make enough cash to enlarge their arena's (prices on the TL are way up there, you know?).
If the problem for all managers in a division or a country is the same, then the solution is as well! The fastest to adept are the ones that will come out on top. I am not saying that selling (bench) players to enlarge your stadion is THE answer, but if it is, and everybody in a certain division does it, then the level of competition with the other managers in that division will remain the same. The managers who wouldn't sell in this case will eventualy fall behind: they will have less income from spectators and less options to expand or buy new players...
But untill we know how the changes will work out we can only speculate on what is going to happen. Just a couple of weeks, then we can make plans on how to cope with them :)

I haven't been bankrupt yet, nor do I plan to but if it happens, it happens. Before it does, though, there are players to sell, staff to fire and rehire, and ticket prices to fenagle. If you go bankrupt in this game either you are making some really silly moves as General Manager or you are not trying.

well, two cents for Verrinho
He means that the competition in some countries (not only in Italy) is very hard and to keep the level high you must spend a lot of money buying players and paying them the salaries. I will not promote in first division but I'm already at the break even point, in the meantime there are countries where you can see bots in the first division, that's a point that has to be discussed but just to close my post, I'm not so worried about these changes, even if I think there will be a lot of teams that will continue to make tons of money (see above why)

Why is it that whenever people want to discuss something and express a difference of opinion while offering alternate suggestions someone feels the need to point out that it's a game.

Thanks for that. None of us had any idea.

Let me see if I understand - because this is a game we are no longer allowed to have opinions about changes being made? Is that your position?

i think the purpose of the game is to win the first division, right?

Wrong.

Yeah!!! The main purpose is to arrive in 5th position in the second Switzerland division






PS: Vinnie I'm joking ;)

Hmm, things happen in life and in games that you won't like. Adapt and overcome.

How about you give the new system a chance. Perhaps haste is not your weapon of choice here. I will vehemently defend this change, because clearly, the minds who created and run this game know what they are doing. They know far more than you and are privy to far more information about the game.

I understand the need to raise concern, but I feel most of this is garbled balderdash.

Honestly, didn't you think the game would adapt? It adapts, we adapt, it adapts again.
From seasons 1-???

So most of this is garbled balderdash is it? Lets see what your brilliant contribution was. You seem to have made two main points:

1. Changes are needed. Since pretty much all of us have conceded that changes are needed this point is moot. Balderdash if you will.

2. The BBs know more about the game so they must automatically be right. This sentiment is naive at best, since if that were the case we wouldn't be in a situation where changes were required to begin with. I'm not trying to knock the BBs, they have plenty enough to do and do it well, but to claim that they immediately came up with the best possible solution is ridiculous, escpeciually since they themselves admit that it was a rushed decision.

well, i'm just speaking about the italian situation, i know only that situation. but, if the world cup champion country think what i wrote, i believe something is going wrong, don't you?

No.

Winning the World Championships doesn't make that countries' users opinions more important.

My tone here is only bright and responsive, spicy even. Read it as such.

If their solution isn't the best possible, than who's is? Did anyone write up a five paragraph order on how to improve the site and mitigate issues? Than isn't BBs the best possible? Theoretically yes, there could be a better one, but it doesn't exist in our known BB world does it?


We represent a microcosm of mankind, especially so, if you factor the cultural diversity that exists here. Man has historically exploited any resource, recess, advantage and species he came into contact with, in one way or another, directly or indirectly. We here at BB have done what we have always done, found inherit flaws and used them to our advantage. Now, some flaws are dissipating and man does not like losing his advantage does he?

I defend them fully, because they took our suggestions and their knowledge and evolved the game before it was too late. They will never make a perfect patch. There will never be an immaculate version. That is not possible. So again, adapt and overcome.